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Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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post #47

What's really stupid are sites from which you can buy things, but then pop up an ad for something else. Fandango, which sells movie tickets, does this. As you're trying to get to the "buy ticket" page, they shove movie trailers for other movies in your face. I mentioned a site earlier today which sold plumbing supplies.[1] They pop up a "gimme your email" box which 1) cannot be dismissed , and 2) isn't even theirs, i…

I blame this on A/B tests which ignore externalities. Sure, maybe the 3 metrics you were aiming for were improved, but your brand is fucked. I think brands like Sears/Kenmore/Craftsman were A/Bed to death. So many little 'optimizations' (read: cost cutting that looked-good-on-paper) that eventually destroyed what the brand was about in the first place.

Heh, measuring average and unbiased user opinions on the internet is probably the second most uncertain thing in this universe after actual uncertainty in quantum systems.

Both opt-in and opt-out ways of doing surveys on your website introduce bias. The opt-out (read: in your face pop-up) is more likely to make people angry which makes them more likely to leave negative reviews.

The opt-in version will only be found by people having a relatively extreme opinion about your site, good or bad.

The difference being in the quantity of the data. The first will probably be answered by more people, since the people who'd have completed the survey in the second case are probably more or less a subset of the people who would complete the survey in the first case. All of this makes it no surprise that most websites that want to have any kind of feedback from their users go for the opt-out strategy. More is better if less is not in any way more :)

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had many sites pop this up within seconds of being on the site. Though the attention span of some might be short, I suspect the data collected by these surveys is highly unhelpful simply because you have not yet experienced the product. Given they're all from the same company usually whose name escapes me right now, you'd think they'd be better at it?

ForeSee

The worst part about their worthless surveys is that it's pretty much impossible to give feedback about the actual survey itself.

It's easy to see how this happens; a clueless exec at big-corp decides they need data, survey company gives them a sales pitch they can't refuse, exec never bothers to actually check out the product.

These worthless surveys are almost exclusively on the websites large enterprisey companies that got off the clue-train years ago.

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you using an adblocker?

Do ad blockers break AMP pages? If so that is a pretty crafty way of killing them. "Would you like to search and browse the mobile web through Google? Only if you disable your ad blocker." I'd be shocked if they don't try to force AMP on the desktop as well next if this works out for them.

That might depend on the specific ad blocker and which domains it is blocking.

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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post #54
post #8

What's about intrusive cookie warnings? (They are apparently mandatory in the European Union and Google made them part of the Adwords rules some time ago.)

Why do cookie warnings have to be a popup? Not to mention that the vast majority of times these warnings come up cookies are in no way required for the site.

They don't. The websites can insert a small hyperlink anywhere on the home page linking to the cookie policy and that counts as notifying the user.

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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Most users hate these pop-ups and cheer this move from Google. But let me add a little context to why these ads are so prevalent and why some companies view this move as Google abusing their power. If you visit to any "guide" website like TripAdviser, Yelp, etc, these days on a mobile browser, you'll notice that the sites often barely let you do anything without downloading the native app. They all but refuse to let…

Wow didn't know this. Is this also why many e-commerce sites beg for your email every time you visit?

That's more so they can bring you back even if you weren't actively looking for something ("wow, widget x is 50% off - I'll probably need it in the next few months, I should buy it now."). Also to keep their brand in the front of your mind the next time you do actively look for something.

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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post #64

I wish Google would penalize websites with pay walls

A paywall is a pop up ad, and worse than most, in that you can't dismiss it. Google would argue that visitors coming via search aren't paywalled, but often that isn't true. Some give you 3 free views, for example, then cut you off. To me, if you want a paywall, that's fine...But then your content shouldn't show up on search engines, or perhaps if it does, it should be clearly marked as such.

I hear you but then search results would be full of diluted blogspam, because paid content tends to be higher signal:noise.

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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post #12

Oh good, Google abusing their power again. I guess as long as it's for "good" reasons. edit: would any downvoters care to explain how google being able to arbitrarily dictate web content is a power they should have?

Abusing their power? You mean like rewarding sites that present content people are searching for instead of plastering a full page ad in front of them? The shit people say to justify their anti-Google agenda never ceases to be ridiculous.

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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post #47

What's really stupid are sites from which you can buy things, but then pop up an ad for something else. Fandango, which sells movie tickets, does this. As you're trying to get to the "buy ticket" page, they shove movie trailers for other movies in your face. I mentioned a site earlier today which sold plumbing supplies.[1] They pop up a "gimme your email" box which 1) cannot be dismissed , and 2) isn't even theirs, i…

> This is usually considered a big mistake in retail. Is it? Grocery stores keep essentials far away from each other so you have to walk past stuff you don't want in order to get to what you want. Imagine a store where they had milk at the checkout counter! That's the retail equivalent of amazon.com ;)

Working with a big food manufacturer some years ago, had a detailed discussion about their relationship with big super markets and how they had to do X offers per year. More interestingly, the end of aisles were known as sh*t bins. You could sell anything there. It just shifted.

Re: Google Has Started Penalizing Mobile Websites with Intrusive Pop-Up Ads

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post #44
post #7

You mean intrusive like the AMP header on every !@$! mobile page now that's not only annoying but breaks the standard UX?

Where do yousee AMP? I use firefox on android, is that why I don't know about it?

if you search for a topic in the news, you should see a news carousel at the top of mobile search results pages. these results have the word "AMP" alongside a lighting-icon.
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