NHTSA’s full investigation into Tesla’s Autopilot shows 40% crash rate reduction

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jan 19, 2017, 9:01 PM UTC

DonHopkins wrote: post #109

snewman wrote: post #2

Tesla comes off extremely well in this report. For one thing, the 40% statistic cited in the headline appears to be well supported by the NHTSA report (section 5.4) and actually manages to frame the incident in a very positive light: ODI analyzed mileage and airbag deployment data supplied by Tesla for all MY 2014 through 2016 Model S and 2016 Model X vehicles equipped with the Autopilot Technology Package, either in…

The car should immediately pull over and shut down if it detects any activity on the driver's Twitter or Facebook feeds: Social Media Strike Out!

Post by usrusr » Thu, Jan 19, 2017, 9:01 PM UTC

OrwellianChild wrote: post #112

gwern wrote: post #99

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Reading it, I think it is essentially a 'before October 2015' vs 'after October 2015' comparison of overall accident rates, given the caveats there. So the -40% here should be a lower bound, since it includes a time period with 0% Autopilot usage (before October 2015) and a time period with an unknown but This strikes me as suspiciously high: what fraction of airbag-worth accidents are supposed to happen on the highw…

This accident reduction is driven not by the auto-driving part of the package, but the emergency response part. The autonomous breaking and evasive steering that occurs when an accident is imminent is what is preventing accidents.

Post by celticninja » Thu, Jan 19, 2017, 9:02 PM UTC

Angostura wrote: post #152

celticninja wrote: post #145

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Would require you to link your social media accounts to your car so easily avoided.

Oh, I think the car would be able to learn your social media accounts after a while, just looking for any geotagged posts that tend to match the car's position

Post by criley2 » Thu, Jan 19, 2017, 9:05 PM UTC

gravypod wrote: post #133

6stringmerc wrote: post #131

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...then fashion a start-up based on "Ownership" of the vehicle and code and sell devices to Tesla owners to over-ride any part of the system they don't like, then profit!

Then sell the customers list to law enforcement to make side money! What a fantastic time to live in SV!

Post by illumin8 » Thu, Jan 19, 2017, 9:12 PM UTC

manicdee wrote: post #142

jfoutz wrote: post #54

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Varying insurance rates based on age and gender seem to indicate that, yes, demographics play a role in driving responsibility. A Tesla is not a cheap car. I kind of suspect the average Tesla driver is more responsible than the average driver. It may be the case that the average Tesla driver is very well off, and treat the cars as expensive toys though, so it's tough to say without numbers. If i had to bet right now,…

I suspect the average Tesla driver is more irresponsible than the average driver, simply because they're rich and are used to getting their way. If you study rich drivers I have no doubt that you would find that they cut people off more, overtake in more dangerous situations, use their indicators less, drive over the speed limit more, proceed through amber signals later, run red lights more often, and generally show…