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Re: Make Firefox support moz://a

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Post by hobarrera »

dustinmr wrote: post #96
wott wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No, because people aren't complete idiots. Sweet summer child. http://www.gentside.com/le-bon-coin/le-bon-coin-un-ordinateu... http://i.imgur.com/4nMqG8C.png http://www.jofogas.hu/veszprem/Sony_mio_laptop_elado_6040346... http://archiwum.allegro.pl/oferta/sony-mio-pcg-6e1m-laptop-o... https://www.olx.in/item/sony-wio-laptop-ID19koWZ.html

Change languages and you're in a whole other world. Have an Argentine (for example) pronounce Yosemite National Park for you. Or for that matter, ask an English speaker to pronounce Habanero (there's no ñ) or someone from the East Coast to say Oregon or Puyallup. While those are words and names, examples abound in marketing. But to continue my example, Argentines already pronounce Mozilla differently than an English…

As an Argentina (born and living in AR), I can assure you we pronounce Mozilla almost identically. The Z might sound softer (like it does in "song"), but that's it.

The people from the above examples are just holding laptops upside down, there's no language involved there.

Re: Make Firefox support moz://a

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Post by hobarrera »

analogmemory wrote: post #133
dustinmr wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Change languages and you're in a whole other world. Have an Argentine (for example) pronounce Yosemite National Park for you. Or for that matter, ask an English speaker to pronounce Habanero (there's no ñ) or someone from the East Coast to say Oregon or Puyallup. While those are words and names, examples abound in marketing. But to continue my example, Argentines already pronounce Mozilla differently than an English…

I always got a kick how google/apple maps used to pronounce Sepulveda Blvd in Los Angeles. (Or almost any street name with a Spanish name)

Using stuff like Here Maps, Apple Maps (and probably Google Maps too) when driving around Argentina is a real laugh.

Re: Make Firefox support moz://a

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Post by Piskvorrr »

wott wrote: post #67
toxican wrote: post #42

While I don't like the branding move at all, I think the concern that people will start calling them moz-colon-forward-slash-forwadslash-a is a little ridiculous. Is Sony's line of laptops Analog Wave One Zero? Is Verizon Verizoncheckmark? Is Johnson & Johnson Johnson ampersand Johnson? Is Comcast CComcast? No, because people aren't complete idiots. Those that are going to know/care about Mozilla will be able to tell…

> No, because people aren't complete idiots. Sweet summer child. http://www.gentside.com/le-bon-coin/le-bon-coin-un-ordinateu... http://i.imgur.com/4nMqG8C.png http://www.jofogas.hu/veszprem/Sony_mio_laptop_elado_6040346... http://archiwum.allegro.pl/oferta/sony-mio-pcg-6e1m-laptop-o... https://www.olx.in/item/sony-wio-laptop-ID19koWZ.html

Not to mention dy.

http://s176.photobucket.com/user/trkraus/media/DSC_0103.jpg....

Re: Make Firefox support moz://a

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Post by Rumudiez »

38kkdiu wrote: post #121
matt4077 wrote: post #51

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Quote, to maybe nib the ritual hatred in the bud before mozilla becomes the new Apple: "A logo that not only DOESN’T suck but one that has a strong idea, a fresh execution, a promising flexibility, and, that all of it together, sometimes subtly and sometimes overtly, manages to communicate what Mozilla is about." Now if only someone would write an article explaining why considerations such as branding are useful even…

Actually, that review just underscores a problem I have with modern design, which is a focus on aesthetic elegance and cleverness over real usability concerns. I love design, so I'm not meaning to bash design per se, but every field has its problems. With design, it's a lack of attention to usability as a scientific, empirical, psychological, cognitive, physiological sort of issue. There's too much of a focus on clev…

> Actually, that review just underscores a problem I have with modern design, which is a focus on aesthetic elegance and cleverness over real usability concerns.

As a full-time designer who graduated from a fine arts college (read: least-user focused possible), this is completely false regarding what I and all my peers do.

Designers don't set out to be "clever" – we're not programmers, after all. We set out to solve a ritual problem of meaningfully conveying ideas and messages to a target audience, wide or narrow. The reasoning is pretty simple.

Readability (different from legibility) is an incredibly important part of designing with type, and your lede basically invalidated all else you have to say, especially as followed by "I love design."

Re: Make Firefox support moz://a

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Post by r00fus »

paulddraper wrote: post #140
aaronbrethorst wrote: post #137

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Puy = The same sound as the word "pew", like a church pew. Allup = Al + Up. Like "Gallop" without the g. Sequim is still my favorite Washington place :) http://www.movoto.com/blog/opinions/pronounce-washington-nam...

Said "squim", FYI. But now we're just reaching for absurdities. I live near Tooele, UT (too-il-uh), and my uncle lives in Hurricane, UT (her-i-ken).

I thought Hurricane was just pronounced "her-ken". Also: "creek" in UT is pronounced "crick".

Re: Make Firefox support moz://a

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Post by apricot »

newscracker wrote: post #127
toxican wrote: post #42

While I don't like the branding move at all, I think the concern that people will start calling them moz-colon-forward-slash-forwadslash-a is a little ridiculous. Is Sony's line of laptops Analog Wave One Zero? Is Verizon Verizoncheckmark? Is Johnson & Johnson Johnson ampersand Johnson? Is Comcast CComcast? No, because people aren't complete idiots. Those that are going to know/care about Mozilla will be able to tell…

> I think the concern that people will start calling them moz-colon-forward-slash-forwadslash-a is a little ridiculous Honestly, I'd be happier if someone called it "moz-colon-forward-slash-forwardslash-a" instead of calling it "moz-colon-backslash-backslash-a". I've seen so many people mix up slash (forward slash) and backslash!

I once had a student describe the "/" character by saying "You know, the backwards backslash".

Re: Make Firefox support moz://a

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Post by scholia »

throwawayish wrote: post #134
Mithaldu wrote: post #97

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Tbh, SNSV is a perfectly valid reading for the first two. That one's just a shitty font.

And VAIO is a kinda poorly designed logo; you only know it's supposed to say VAIO because someone told you...

Easier to read if you know it stands for Video Audio Integrated Operation

Re: Make Firefox support moz://a

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Post by paulddraper »

r00fus wrote: post #146
paulddraper wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Said "squim", FYI. But now we're just reaching for absurdities. I live near Tooele, UT (too-il-uh), and my uncle lives in Hurricane, UT (her-i-ken).

I thought Hurricane was just pronounced "her-ken". Also: "creek" in UT is pronounced "crick".

That's not the Wikipedia pronunciation ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane,_Utah ), but it's probably said that way too.

Re: Make Firefox support moz://a

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Post by db48x »

datenwolf wrote: post #23

Until now I didn't realize Mozilla changed their logo. Now I've seen it the typographer in me cries… The whole purpose of text is to _unambigously_ convey information. So either Mozilla now rebrands themself as moz-colon-slash-slash or they now live with a significant portion of typography-anal nerds who dislike that logo.

You're not going to like the curl logo either, then.
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