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Which client blocks remote images by default? Is it a cli or gui?
I think he meant Gmail
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> and it's so non-native on macOS that you have to run an X server just to see it. Gtk has been ported to macOS in 2007. You don't need an X server anymore :)
Oh! Sorry. I suppose this is what Inkscape for Mac is using; that makes sense. Does it support hi-DPI yet?
Gtk 3 should (GIMP is still using 2 unfortunately ...), not sure how the support is on Mac.
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#273I really wanted an Email client for Linux which isn't power hungry but unfortunately last I tried Nylas - it was always top app in `powertop`. An always running app has to be low on power consumption IMO, but because so many apps are being built on top of webkit/electron most of them pretty much suck when it comes to battery usage. Another case in point is slack app. On Linux, it is probably the worst app. :(
Electron actually gives you quite a bit of free help for power consumption. The Chromium team goes through great lengths to save power and most of those efforts get reflected in Electron. For example, when it the app gets put in the background it will automatically reduce power usage. When no javascript is running the app consumes effectively no power. Now that being said there's nothing to stop developers from runni…
I have done some benchmarking of Qt/C++ vs Eletron/node performance while I was working on rbkit-client (https://github.com/code-mancers/rbkit-client) and frankly performance gap is huge for stuff like parsing, processing and anything which is CPU bound.
So if Nylas is parsing imap messages then both parsing and rendering difference between a native and eletron app will be big. Fortunately browsers workaround some of this problem by consuming json and stuff - formats browsers can natively parse.
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Gemail, Outlook.com/hotmail, thunderbird and outlook all block images, unless whitelisted... Now, there may be other providers/clients that don't, but the above accounts for a significant number of users (if not most western mail users).
"When you get a message that has a picture in it, you see the picture automatically. " https://support.google.com/mail/answer/145919?co=GENIE.Platf...
Gmail automatically downloads and caches images, and loads them from their server instead of from the original remote server, when you read the email.
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If a malicious party successfully attacked the Nylas auth servers, how much of my email data would they be able to get? All of it?
The backend speaks SMTP, IMAP, and HTTP. It is basically a glue (or proxy) between SMTP/IMAP (including those protocols over TLS) and HTTP. Nylas Pro talks HTTP to the glue (I assume that is using TLS, so HTTPS). Nylas Mail also talks HTTP to the backend, but the backend runs locally, so you're self hosting the backend. I suppose this has a performance loss. (With Nylas Pro, you can set a separate backend server if y…
I don't think the free version of Nylas Mail is storing IMAP passwords, plaintext or otherwise. For Gmail, at least.
1. You never enter them into the client. It uses Oauth to authenticate.
2. By the comment here, it seems that they're using Google's Gmail API. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13417904
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/1hie94302jtxcmx/Screenshot%202017-... (I work at Nylas.)
Is this image from before or after selecting "Load Remote Images", assuming Nylas has such a feature? Also, what is the default configuration? To load remote content, or to not?
Nylas Mail defaults to loading remote images.
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Is this image from before or after selecting "Load Remote Images", assuming Nylas has such a feature? Also, what is the default configuration? To load remote content, or to not?
Nylas Mail defaults to loading remote images.
If you configure it to not load remote images, how does it fare against the email privacy tester?
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#278...for mac users
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#279Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unfortunately, standardization != widespread use. Tracking pixels are still the most reliable way to know whether a recipient (or many) opened your message.
That's not a good excuse for not implementing a standard. It's also a little like saying "private investigators are still the most reliable way to know whether a person is at home": it's true, but not really a better thing to implement.
Whether a standard has adoption or not is a perfectly good consideration when deciding whether to implement it.
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Why a bad app?
I think gregman1 means bad from a resource consumption point of view. It takes a lot of memory and CPU compared to similar, non-electron based text editors.
His lazy comment doesn't need rationalising.
VS Code is not 'a very bad app'. If you know of a comparable app that uses fewer resources to a significant degree please let us all know and I'm sure we'll all switch.