We really need something like "GNU phoneutils" ... a big package of command line utilities to control and manipulate a telephone. I really, really want to do things like this: cat file | sms -send -n 4157771234 grep mom addresses | awk (field with phonenumber) | dial --nobusy --retry 3 That is to say, I want a unix phone . I want to run the phone with unix and unix commands. Certainly not all of the time, but some of…
The Case for Ubuntu Phone
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Re: The Case for Ubuntu Phone
#82I would like to try Ubuntu Phone but I cannot find it anywhere. Canonical's page says that all devices are out of stock, various online stores say exactly the same thing, and all the devices that are listed as compatibile (Nexus 5 for instance) are two generations old and also hard to come by. The only option I haven't tried is buying used phone on eBay, because they usually come in pretty bad shape so I want brand n…
https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/devices/installing-ubu...
I've bit a little disappointed that Firefox OS didn't pan out
Re: The Case for Ubuntu Phone
#83Its curious these devices work flawlessly with Android but cannot even boot with Linux. Or if it boots none of the functionality works.
The drivers are there and they work on 'Linux' just fine but somehow they are never available on Linux. Folks here get worked up about insignificant chinese companies when this is totally in the control of Arm and Google.
Its now tiring to see open source developers struggle incessantly to get information from ARM for over 5 years and the ball is kicked from ARM to the OEM both claiming the other has denied permission and this goes on. There are always promises and excuses but never any results.
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are the CDMA ones planning on moving to LTE?
They (Verizon, Sprint) already have, but they still use CDMA in outlying areas and for voice service. (Verizon, especially, is known for having the best rural service, at least in the rural areas near where I live.) Verizon does use SIM cards for LTE; I'm not sure about Spring but I'm guessing they do as well. Both still have the CDMA-carrier mindset of wanting only "their" devices on their networks. In the past they…
Re: The Case for Ubuntu Phone
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the biggest thing that could probably help the Ubuntu Phone is an approachable development environment. If the road to developing apps for a phone is short enough, that people on their weekend make apps for it, it will expand rapidly with apps. This requires great tooling, and documentation. Potentially even adoption of a programming language that either comes with a powerful SDK or is tailored from the groun…
Curious why you say Go comes with a lot out of the box. Compared to Python or Java I find it pretty lacking. And even more so when you include 3rd party libraries and the fact that Go has no package manager ala. pip or Ivy. Android Studio is a pretty mature well documented way to make apps so if anyone is truly determined and has some programming experience, making a simple Android app in a weekend is doable. I've he…
A featureful Go package manager a la Cargo or NPM is coming.
A not-so basic package manager is baked into the language and its official tooling. It just behaves like a Unix application, so instead of "pip uninstall package" you run "rm -rf $GOPATH/src/github.com/author/package" (or do it in your app's vendor directory, instead of using a virtualenv).
Re: The Case for Ubuntu Phone
#86I applaud the OP's bravery, but after a long, long time in the telco business and having seen many attempts from multiple platforms towards gaining a foothold (Symbian, Maemo, LiMo - including Vodafone's own version - Bada, etc.), I have to point out that Ubuntu Phone, despite the vision and values behind it, is at a massively overwhelming disadvantage in terms of both telco appeal (what I and my former colleagues st…
I think the biggest thing that could probably help the Ubuntu Phone is an approachable development environment. If the road to developing apps for a phone is short enough, that people on their weekend make apps for it, it will expand rapidly with apps. This requires great tooling, and documentation. Potentially even adoption of a programming language that either comes with a powerful SDK or is tailored from the groun…
Canonical was in fact funding development of go-qml, with the Ubuntu phone in mind.
It has unfortunately broken over time, although a fork exists maintained by the limetext developers.
There is a Qt (and QML) binding library at github.com/therecipe/qt which works, but is far less simple.
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
They (Verizon, Sprint) already have, but they still use CDMA in outlying areas and for voice service. (Verizon, especially, is known for having the best rural service, at least in the rural areas near where I live.) Verizon does use SIM cards for LTE; I'm not sure about Spring but I'm guessing they do as well. Both still have the CDMA-carrier mindset of wanting only "their" devices on their networks. In the past they…
Can you buy SIM cards for Verizon/Sprint and the GSM carriers? Or do they force you to buy a phone that includes a SIM?
Re: The Case for Ubuntu Phone
#88Re: The Case for Ubuntu Phone
#89I applaud the OP's bravery, but after a long, long time in the telco business and having seen many attempts from multiple platforms towards gaining a foothold (Symbian, Maemo, LiMo - including Vodafone's own version - Bada, etc.), I have to point out that Ubuntu Phone, despite the vision and values behind it, is at a massively overwhelming disadvantage in terms of both telco appeal (what I and my former colleagues st…
Err?
Re: The Case for Ubuntu Phone
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are the CDMA ones planning on moving to LTE?
They (Verizon, Sprint) already have, but they still use CDMA in outlying areas and for voice service. (Verizon, especially, is known for having the best rural service, at least in the rural areas near where I live.) Verizon does use SIM cards for LTE; I'm not sure about Spring but I'm guessing they do as well. Both still have the CDMA-carrier mindset of wanting only "their" devices on their networks. In the past they…