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Re: Nintendo Switch

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Post by Aaargh20318 »

mathw wrote: post #202
minimaxir wrote: post #10

Current concern on the gaming forums is the lack of high-profile launch games, with Splatoon 2 and Mario not being present at that time. Can Zelda alone sell systems? (probably yes)

How many games can you play at once? How many consoles can Nintendo make per day? Not having both Zelda and Mario at launch is probably good for reducing demand a bit to help them keep up, because it's nice to sell out but not by too much. Mario Kart's turning up a month later. Splatoon is coming during the year some time (can't remember if they said when). And saving Super Mario Odyssey for next holiday season is cl…

> How many games can you play at once?

If there are 100 games released for a console, how many of those games would appeal to you ? 10? 20?

How long do you play a game for before you've finished it. And then what ?

One game every few months isn't enough. So they release Splatoon in a few months, I'm not interested in that so from my point of view there isn't anything to play that month.

Re: Nintendo Switch

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

inDigiNeous wrote: post #224
eltoozero wrote: post #84

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Dolphin EMU really highlights how strong and under-appreciated so many of the GameCube gen games are: Viewtiful Joe, F-Zero X, Luigi's Mansion, Mario Sunshine, Pikmin, Wind Waker, and especially the Metroid Prime series are outgrageously good games. Hard to think of any real bombs in that entire library TBH.

Oh man, games like F-Zero GX, you just don't get this stuff on Sony or Microsoft consoles. Also Metroid Prime, Super Smash Bros Melee! Stuff of legends. 4 player support on the same couch? Damn. Gamecube might have been the best console from Nintendo in my view.

I never owned any console until the GameCube. Nintendo converted me over from PC gaming with the quality of the games and the system itself. Since then I've owned every Nintendo system.

I also bought a PS3, but more as a DVD/BluRay player. Other than Little Big Planet and Skyrim I never liked any of the other games for it.

Re: Nintendo Switch

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Post by izacus »

AltGr wrote: post #239
chalupa-man wrote: post #125

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I do want to point out that it matches current consoles in the US, but is actually going to be significantly more expensive than anything on the market in many countries. Where I am, for example, if they release at exactly the US price -- which they won't, prices always get inflated -- a Switch will cost more than a PS4 that comes packed with Fallout 4, Skyrim, and Dishonored 2, three hit games. On top of this, I thi…

> They weren't buying it for portability, like Japanese customers usually did; they were buying it because it was the cheapest way to play videogames, only a third the price of a console and with games that were half the price of console games (in many countries even less). I don't think that's right, price is not the only concern here. It's just a different feeling, from having to start a session on the TV or being…

Are people really behaving like that? Was WiiU feature of being able to play the game on controller only successful?

Or will it take the backseat when the customers notice that PS4 offers a lot more content for lower price? Especially since use of cartriges will mean that the games will be and stay more expensive than their PS4 counterparts?

Re: Nintendo Switch

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Post by tomw2005 »

agd wrote: post #231
ericzawo wrote: post #42

That[1] was masterful marketing of an upcoming videogame console on all fronts. From the beginning it emphasises mobility with a (hopefully good!) smartphone app to manage online/local wifi matches, as well as multiple levels of play while on the go. It's reasonably priced (matches current generation in total at the register) and has an incredibly diverse range of titles to be excited about this calendar year. It man…

'Nintendo absolutely killed it' I'm afraid I have to disagree. Here's why: - price: much more expensive than most people were expecting (£280 vs for example, £200 for a PS4 with a game) - battery life: potentially only 2.5 hours? Really not good enough for a handheld. - storage: only 32gb, will run out very quickly - online offering weak vs ps4/xbox as only NES/SNES games and you only get them for a month - very few…

-Price: Exactly the same as the basic Wii U at launch. Comparing it to the PS4 is disingenuous as it is a 4 year old console [1], it is £100 cheaper than the PS4 Pro deals currently on Amazon. Who are 'most people'? This article implies that it is the expected price point [2]: http://time.com/4632820/nintendo-switch-nx/.

-Battery life is 2.5-6 hours depending on the game. This is comparable to the 3DS line: http://kotaku.com/how-does-the-new-3ds-compare-to-the-older-.... We will have to see how well it does in practice though.

-Storage: The Wii U only had a basic 8GB which is enough for most use cases except downloading games. The switch can extend with SD cards too. As games will be shipped on cards like the DS I doubt this will be an issue for the average user.

-Online: I would consider the playing with others side of this more important than the free game. Though it is a shame that the games are only for the month. This is a fairly new thing for Nintendo so I hope it improves.

-Launch: it might have a few but I expect the fact that one of them is Zelda will help it a lot.

Personally I'm excited for it and it is perfect for my kind of gaming: mostly on the go. I'm rarely at home long enough to make the investment into systems that I can't take with me. Of course, YMMV.

[1] I'm not making a judgement call on specs here, just pointing out that, of course, an older console is cheaper.

[2] The accessories though, are not cheap.

Re: Nintendo Switch

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Post by markonen »

vinay427 wrote: post #256
unexistance wrote: post #219

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unfortunate truth ..

It's especially bothersome to me when parents use "learning" apps to try and pretend that they're being a more productive parent by giving their child an iPad. Perhaps they can do some good, but their effects are also vastly overstated and are no substitute for hands-on physical teaching by parents. Here is an example study that tries to test the effects of apps vs. parents teaching foreign language words: https://ww…

If by apps you mean a watching DVD, which (based on the abstract) was what this studied.

Re: Nintendo Switch

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Post by krelian »

Roritharr wrote: post #249
martin_bech wrote: post #237

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I feel the exact same way.. Its basicly a Nintendo 2DS XXXL, with awful battery, a stand HDMI, and next to no games. And its pretty much priced as a PS4 PRO, with 1 tb storage. The games are on cartridges.. what year is this?

The WiiU already supported Downloading Games from their store, i'd expect this to be able to do the same, the question is just how big of an SD Card you want to cram in there.

That's what I don't get. With only 32GB of storage Nintendo is not making it easy to go all digital which is something that they should want to do as they get a bigger cut when people buy directly from them.

Re: Nintendo Switch

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Post by iagooar »

Aaargh20318 wrote: post #267
iagooar wrote: post #255

Wow, I wonder where all this skepticism and negativity come from. The Nintendo Switch has me so excited, I can't wait for the launch day! Finally, I'll be able to have one piece of hardware for playing at home and on the go. If you don't see the awesomeness of playing Skyrim on your commute then probably are not in the right target group. I like the Switch because it looks so versatile. You can play at home, on the g…

> Finally, I'll be able to have one piece of hardware for playing at home and on the go. Until you're done playing both games, and then what ?

Which both games? There will be plenty of games coming out. And if not, Skyrim is pretty much a game you can play forever (and people, including me, still do).

Re: Nintendo Switch

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Post by rickyc091 »

grenoire wrote: post #262
Mithaldu wrote: post #257

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> battery life: potentially only 2.5 hours? Really not good enough for a handheld. Whoah, can you source that? If that number is even remotely true the thing is completely useless as a handheld due to requiring 2-3 extra batteries for any longish trip.

From the presentation. They mentioned it was 2.5 to 6, but expect worst case with battery life. You can plug a USB-C to charge it with a power bank from what I gather.

Yep, the Nintendo 3DS came with a 1750 mAh battery and that lasted for 3-5 hours. Get a small power bank or a 10,000 mAh one and you're set for the whole day. I don't think battery is too much of a problem.

Re: Nintendo Switch

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Post by rickyc091 »

fnord123 wrote: post #209
misingnoglic wrote: post #143

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Regarding the iPad, do kids/parents see that as a gaming device? You can't get real games on one of those.

>do kids/parents see that as a gaming device? It's a "make my kids shut up in the car or in a restaurant" device.

This is the truth. Many kids are still using Nintendo 3DS as a gaming console in conjunction to having a tablet.

Re: Nintendo Switch

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Post by nicky0 »

tmuir wrote: post #41
minimaxir wrote: post #10

Current concern on the gaming forums is the lack of high-profile launch games, with Splatoon 2 and Mario not being present at that time. Can Zelda alone sell systems? (probably yes)

They don't call them Zelda Boxes for nothing. I'll admit I'm biased, but I see nearly every Zelda game as easily in the top 3, if not the killer app of each Nintendo system. Legend of Zelda - NES Link to the Past - SNES Links Awakening - Gameboy Ocarina of Time - N64 Wind Waker - Gamecube Twilight Princess - Wii Skyward Sword - Wii Heck, even the promise of how perfectly the WiiU's controller could have been for a Ze…

You forgot the best Zelda game of all - Majora's Mask - N64.
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