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Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0

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Post by baldfat »

izacus wrote: post #156
baldfat wrote: post #144

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> Right click doesn't work. And more and more. MacOS? I fail to see that this is the way it works in RStudio, VS Code and Atom???

It doesn't in Slack and some other Electron apps. You just get generic "copy" popup and bunch of functionality is awkwardly bunched into hidden click menus which make me think there's an issue with creating these menus.

https://github.com/electron/electron/pull/2232

Looks like it was addressed in 2015 but I don't think the other applications used the fix.

Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0

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Post by tptacek »

napoleond wrote: post #170
tptacek wrote: post #150

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It's a forward tick: 'tptacek. We're not writing Lisp macros. :)

So you concede that you were being obtuse ;)

Not really: I'd just rather find out where the point of contention is before getting pedantically prolix.

Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0

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Post by Philipp__ »

baldfat wrote: post #155
Philipp__ wrote: post #151

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Your point is? Emacs/Vim/Sublime are faster, more extensible and native compared to VS Code. RStudio I didn't use, nor I programmed in R, and I didn't know it was Electron app anyway.

I used VIM on my Amiga. Today I am mostly using VS Code on my 8 year old Dell at work. For coding there is no performance issues. My Point: VS Code is a great electron application. Works great.

It is but it's slower than Vim. I've tried it. It is fast, for Electron app. Try opening huge text or log file in it.

Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0

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Post by akvadrako »

rampage101 wrote: post #48
sneak wrote: post #6

PSA: Telegram is dangerous snake oil—bad crypto. Don't use it, don't let friends use it. https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/81899003583181619... https://twitter.com/kaepora/status/819181464369577984 https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/81919238137120358...

Interesting because the friend who told me about Telegram said it was more secure other messengers. Does anybody know how many users are on Telegram and who owns them? Can you invest in them?

That's because it's how they sell themselves. From their homepage:

> Telegram is a cloud-based mobile and desktop messaging app with a focus on security and speed.

Unfortunately, it tricks a lot of people.

Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0

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Post by rnhmjoj »

notheguyouthink wrote: post #142
sambe wrote: post #103

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To clarify: secret chats have been present on Telegram as a platform for a long time. The desktop client doesn't seem to support them though. This often leads to people saying things like "Telegram doesn't have end-to-end encryption". Really, what they mean is that it's not the default and isn't on all platforms. Most people can use it if they want to though because it's available on all major mobile OSes.

What is this "Desktop Client", i don't get it -_- I use the Telegram app on my OSX Laptop, and i use Secret chats. They seem identical to my Android secret chats. What am i missing?

Telegram desktop [1] aka "tdesktop" is the official telegram desktop client, it's based on Qt and it's cross platform (Windows, GNU/Linux, OS X). What you have been using must be "Telegram for OS X" [2], a different application entirely, which supports only OS X obviously. IIRC tdesktop didn't support OS X initially.

[1]: https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop [2]: https://github.com/overtake/telegram

Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0

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Post by jhasse »

tptacek wrote: post #153
jhasse wrote: post #152

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So there's no practical difference for you in understanding algorithms between assembly and higher-level source code?

In practice we often don't even need to read the assembly code; we can match control-flow graphs. There really are some software security verification problems that are easier from the binary, particularly if the build system is complex. But that's sort of besides the point. Reading assembly is more tedious than reading C code, which is in turn more tedious than reading Python code. But you don't get to move the goal…

I see, thanks for clarifying.

Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0

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Post by notheguyouthink »

Kipters wrote: post #164
notheguyouthink wrote: post #138

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I'm confused, how are there no secret chats? I use them all the time from Desktop.. but maybe you mean Windows? I don't recall trying them from Windows - i use the OSX version. Secret chats on OSX has the same UX as secret chats on my Android client, fwiw.

You're probably using the Mac app. The post is about the Telegram Desktop cross-platform app, that doesn't support secret chats.

Weird, so i guess for OSX they have two desktop clients. Such ambiguous wording. Thanks

Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0

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Post by notheguyouthink »

rnhmjoj wrote: post #175
notheguyouthink wrote: post #142

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What is this "Desktop Client", i don't get it -_- I use the Telegram app on my OSX Laptop, and i use Secret chats. They seem identical to my Android secret chats. What am i missing?

Telegram desktop [1] aka "tdesktop" is the official telegram desktop client, it's based on Qt and it's cross platform (Windows, GNU/Linux, OS X). What you have been using must be "Telegram for OS X" [2], a different application entirely, which supports only OS X obviously. IIRC tdesktop didn't support OS X initially. [1]: https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop [2]: https://github.com/overtake/telegram

Interesting, thanks for the clarification! Seeing as OSX has secret chats, i may as well stick with it heh.

Re: Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0

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Post by kstenerud »

konart wrote: post #89
wowtip wrote: post #77

Some of my friends are moving from Skype to Discord, but it seems to be a plethora of new IM clients popping up all the time. From what I can see Telegram doesn't have VoIP, which could be a deal breaker for some. Are there other advantages with Telegram compared to Discord that makes up for the lack of voice?

Telegram never planned implementing VoIP, as far as I remember, only voice messages. The main reasons it's so popular (with some users, 100+ mil of them) - bots (telegram has open api, and bt platform https://telegram.org/blog/bot-revolution ) and channels. In Russia - telegram channels is now a new type of media, very popular with independent journalists, bloggers etc.

Seems odd that such a new IM app wouldn't leave room for voip.

Everyone's looking for a decent replacement for Skype, and Hangouts ain't it.

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