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I am not going to comment on the quality of telegram but whatsapp have been using top notch crypto for some time: https://whispersystems.org/blog/whatsapp-complete/
At least that's what they tell you. We can't know for sure because it's closed-source.
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Also, unlike WhatsApp web, it's not a proxy for the phone app, thus doesn't drain its battery and still works if your phone is broken or lost.
Yeah. And just to add to both of the above, stickers in telegram are visually brilliant. I wonder how many illustrators do they have working with them.
Basically anyone who wants. I have a sticker set with friends of mine : )
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Also, unlike WhatsApp web, it's not a proxy for the phone app, thus doesn't drain its battery and still works if your phone is broken or lost.
Yeah. And just to add to both of the above, stickers in telegram are visually brilliant. I wonder how many illustrators do they have working with them.
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4. Open source, you say? Technically, yes. But in fact they love to abandon github repos while still releasing new versions. Take a look at iOS sources: https://github.com/peter-iakovlev/Telegram/
The Android source code repo is also several months behind the released version. They simply do a code dump every few months.
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How is it related? AFAIK Signal has sync between desktop and mobile doesn't have to be constantly on to use the desktop client
Signal does have sync, but it works exactly the same way as Whatsapp's does, requiring your phone to be on and connected Telegram's secret chats are also client-specific and not synced, and I have no idea how it would even be possible to have e2e chats synced on multiple devices without having a "main" device that's doing the actual crypto or sharing the secret key
Its possible to have e2e on multiple clients, with or without a phone number attached to it. There are multiple chat clients that can do it, some with, some without phone number. Signal requires phone number and does it, Wire and Riot do it without a phone number.
Telegram just don't actually care about security or privacy. Unencrypted defaults, all conversation saved on the server, even if you use their 'roll your own' crypt secret chats you lose most of the functionality that actually go people to use Telegram in the first place.
Telegram essentially has no usable e2e crypto to speak off. Secret chats are a usability and security nightmare.
People should use Riot (Matrix) or Wire. Those are much better.
Things I noticed so far: - Dark Skin (still waiting for Slack doing it) - It's faster than the MAS version - It's not possible to collapse the chat list anymore - The desktop app is responsive, though, collapsing the whole sidebar into a hamburger menu - Replying to messages is buried in a context menu, in the MAS version one could simply double click a message - They created a giant group for themes. Once 4chan join…
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If you're interested in learning how to implement end-to-end chats with multiple devices, checkout out Wire security whitepaper ( https://wire.com/resource/Wire%20Security%20Whitepaper/downl... ) for one way of doing it. Hopefully, OpenWhisperSystems will release documentation about their implementation in Signal (note: it doesn't require phone, unlike WhatsApp)
Thanks! Will definitely read this. I got fooled by Signal's requirement of a phone for the activation and thought it was also required for normal usage, I guess that's better than Whatsapp, though being able to register and use it without a phone at all would be even better (even Telegram doesn't do this though, IIRC it requires a phone number)