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Re: Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals

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Post by lovich » Sat, Jan 07, 2017, 5:46 PM UTC

JakeTheAndroid wrote: post #165

aljones wrote: post #116

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The issue is Apple's security standards.

Yes, it is a security standard issue, but it's enforced with hardware. So, while this is there for a reason (possibly even setting a standard for these IoT devices), it's not simply a lack of developers building secure software. It's with the hardware not being spec'd to meet these "arbitrary" security standards. I say arbitrary because clearly no one else in the game is using it. So, I think the OP is correct here,…

As a disclaimer I'm not really an apple fan and have found all of their products to be blah to me.

Considering the rise in IoT based DDoS attacks and the ftc going after companies like D-Link for poor security practices, aren't security standards like Apple is requiring something we want to commend?

Re: Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals

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Post by existencebox » Sat, Jan 07, 2017, 5:49 PM UTC

Waterluvian wrote: post #361

existencebox wrote: post #93

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As someone who has climbed the income ladder significantly, I'd beg to differ. My ability to laugh off chastisement has correlated very directly with my financial stability. In fact I'd say the converse seems more likely, in that for someone without financial capital, social capital is all one has, whereas financial capital can certainly supplement or purchase a lack of social capital in many domains.

Do you mean that you have room to make mistakes and embarassments or that you can be a bit of an unlikable but highly productive person? This sounds like an insult any way I write it but I think you know what I mean. Nobody likes the drill sergeant, but he saves your life.

No worries about sounding as an insult, I wasn't particularly clear in parent comment, see my sister post for more details, but I primarily intended the first of your two interpretations. Sometimes the latter comes in use too (often as allowed by the former) but it's something to use very sparingly.

Re: Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals

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Post by StillBored » Sun, Jan 08, 2017, 4:36 PM UTC

liveify wrote: post #53

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The company you say is in "total disarray" still made $45.7bn in profit in 2016, and grew its share price by 10%. Those are the facts. Outside of the technology bubble, most people don't know or care about many of the issues you cited, or what "loyal followers" on internet forums think. Major investors, who are the only people who could force Cook out, care about the numbers. And while Apple's revenue declined this y…

I completely agree. Very few people outside of HN and r/apple that I have talked to have negative opinions of what Apple is doing. I see no evidence that Apple's products are becoming less popular. The iPhone is still the go to smartphone that I would recommend to anyone. I have switched back and forth between iPhone and Android since they came out, but I would never recommend an Android phone to a casual user. If th…

For certain categories of problem it seems the general public is ignorant. OTOH, the headphone jack seems to be the talk of my non technical iphone associates, and more than one regular upgrader has mentioned they aren't ready to upgrade their iphone 6's because of it.

My wife is the apple user in the house, and I think she is indicative of a lot of them at this point. She chooses apple because they are cool status symbols and her friends have them. The issues with the iphone7 modem (yah I went out of my way for the qualcomm and then had an entertaining conversation with her about it) and headphone jack were completely off her radar. The apparent short life of her iphone 5s battery, and the weird wifi issues with the ipads after OS upgrades/etc don't enter her head as problems with the devices.

Re: Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals

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Post by rictic » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 4:45 AM UTC

ChuckMcM wrote: post #348

rictic wrote: post #331

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Observations: 1. Wealth is exponentially distributed. 2. People tend to socialize with people in their rough income range. 3. Expenses tend to grow to fill any budget. 4. US society isn't very good at saving money, so most people's budget for spending is their entire income. Corollaries: 1. People tend to know a few people who make >10x what they do, a few people who make 10x their income to be affordable.

I like the list, in my case with #3 that wasn't true. Perhaps because my wife's mother was an accountant and so she was always attuned to the cost vs value equation or perhaps because my involvement in startups where I have always been attuned to the burn rate vs progress equation. When I moved to the Bay Area from LA it was with the plan to get a house as quickly as I could, build up some equity in the house while w…

Thanks for the detailed response :)

Corollary #3 is the one I feel the shakiest about. Interesting point about church. Childhood friends who went into careers with diverse income ranges, combined with a social scene outside my career does some of the same things for me, but I suspect church would do a yet better job in keeping me grounded.

Re: Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals

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Post by BipolarElsa » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 11:58 AM UTC

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #240

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I actually really like the new keyboard. Not sure what to tell you. I was a little hesitant, but I think it feels better to type on than the old ones now. It's not like I'm used to shitty keyboards either - when I'm not on a laptop all my keyboards are mechanical.

I'm the same, the new keyboard works fine for me.

The travel distance of the key strokes is becoming gradually smaller and smaller. What is Apple's endgame, you might ask? Get consumers used to a completely glass-touch based keyboard.

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Post by sundvor » Mon, Jan 09, 2017, 8:41 PM UTC

saurik wrote: post #398

sundvor wrote: post #392

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I have a 13000mah charger unit with 2.1A out for my Samsung phone etc. Quite neat design; why not just get one of these if you're going to be carrying so much stuff around anyway? Could use it as a bit of spare power for the 12" as well.

I don't understand how that helps: that just replaces the power supply. So now I have my laptop charging from the power brick over USB-C and I still need the dongle to attach the phone at the same time as I charge my laptop. (I am guessing you meant to charge the phone; but not only wasn't the premise--the laptop is the device that is going to need to charge, particularly when you are using the phone over USB--it doe…

Yep I meant to charge the phone; my thoughts were if you are going to be carrying extra stuff to charge the phone then might as well carry parts that extend overall battery life. (And I was thinking of away from wall usage scenarios.)

Re: Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals

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Post by kayoone » Tue, Jan 10, 2017, 4:40 PM UTC

saurik wrote: post #397

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Ah ok, i didn't think about the mobile developer usecase, thats a valid point. Tethering works fine for me via Bluetooth but i don't use it very often, so that might be valid too. But then a simple USB-C -> Lightning cable will solve your issues right ?

But then we come back to the premise, as you are literally just stopping at the end if my first paragraph: that works until I need to charge my phone and tether or develop at the same time, something of particular importance as there is no way to connect the phone over USB without it draining the battery of the computer into the phone. Maybe the understanding gap here is that you don't really use your laptop very muc…

I use my laptop for work and private 10-12 hours a day and am a developer myself, i just don't develop mobile apps, mostly backend services with python/go/php so i actually hardly connect my phone to the Laptop.

Sorry i actually did not reread your original comment when replying and was assuming this was about the Macbook Pro... If you only have one port there is indeed only the usb-c hub solution which can be annoying.