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Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals

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Re: Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals

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Post by Too »

orbitur wrote: post #322
stinky613 wrote: post #281

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I think you're missing the point that it's fundamentally un-Apple-like to have two new products that out-of-the-box can't connect with each other.

That might be OP's point, but that ignores the fact that Apple would likely dealing with a much worse PR disaster when millions of users can't plug their phone into literally anything they own without first buying a USB-A cable.

Seems like you don't know apple. They have always favored fancy features and out of box experience with other apple products over out of the box backwards compatibility.

Re: Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals

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Post by sundvor »

saurik wrote: post #245
chrisabrams wrote: post #88

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Steve and the unified vision is gone. While on winter holidays my fiance pointed out to me: - She just got a new Macbook Pro from her new job, which has only USB C ports - She just got a new iPhone 7 from her new job, which is only a Lightning port She cannot connect her phone to her computer to charge without a dongle. EDIT: a Lightning to USB C cable does exist now. That is still equivalent to a dongle in my opinio…

I would say it "gets better": I have the 12" MacBook. I only have a USB-C port. I have an iPhone. I need a USB-C cable to connect my MacBook to my iPhone. So far, so good! But, I only have one USB-C port. I also want to charge my laptop. So I have a ludicrous dongle from Apple that lets me plug HDMI, USB, and power (over USB-C) at one time. But, the USB port on the dongle is USB-A, and I need to use the USB-C port to…

I have a 13000mah charger unit with 2.1A out for my Samsung phone etc. Quite neat design; why not just get one of these if you're going to be carrying so much stuff around anyway? Could use it as a bit of spare power for the 12" as well.

Re: Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals

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pducks32 wrote: post #91
mark_l_watson wrote: post #46

Apple's share price for the last year is up by about 10%, despite problems with disatisfation over MacBook Pro, no earphone jack, etc. Personally, the only thing I am really disappointed with is slow progress on web services. I was considering moving on from Apple myself, but decided that I like their hardware and my workflow is good on macOS and iOS (on a iPad Pro). I just bought a MacBook and when my Android phone…

Everyone I talk to in person loves their new MacBook Pro. They say it's their favorite MacBook ever.

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Re: Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals

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Post by martinald »

zeroer wrote: post #326
qyv wrote: post #221

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Not according to Microsoft, VR is going to be a big push for them this year. Granted a lot can go wrong, but they are addressing all the points you just listed: * Headset Pricing: Major OEMs will be releasing headsets starting at $300 [0] * Lowering system specs for VR [1] * Not just a gaming focus: Windows 10 creators update puts an emphasis on 3D and Mixed-Reality, including a 'holographic' interface [2] [0] http:/…

I think Microsoft is 2-3 years too early (or maybe that's the plan?). The technology just isn't there yet. Headesets need to double the resolutions on the displays and increase the frame rate by 50%.

Agreed, I find the current resolution on VR headsets a huge letdown. Actually made worse by the fact that everything else I have these days is retina, 4K, etc so at a very high resolution.

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Post by kayoone »

saurik wrote: post #378
kayoone wrote: post #365

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I hear this argument a lot but for some reason i never plug my iPhone into my laptop for charging, mainly because its a lot slower than using an outlet. 95% of the time i charge it at night and that's fine for the day. In the rare cases where i need to charge on the go i use an outlet or a small powerbank i always have with me.

I do not understand your comment as I almost never plug my iPhone into my laptop for charging: I plug my iPhone into my laptop as USB is a much faster and more stable transfer conduit than bluetooth (for tethering) and is essentially required for doing most development work.

Ah ok, i didn't think about the mobile developer usecase, thats a valid point. Tethering works fine for me via Bluetooth but i don't use it very often, so that might be valid too. But then a simple USB-C -> Lightning cable will solve your issues right ?

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Post by afarrell »

B1FF_PSUVM wrote: post #314
raverbashing wrote: post #251

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Good luck charging your phone wirelessly

I've done it with about 5 dollars worth of hardware (total for both Qi emitter and receiver), and it was a bit fiddly to place the encased phone on the charger in the right place, but no luck was actually required. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100-Original-QI-Wireless-Cha... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Qi-Wireless-Charger-Receiver...

> 5 dollars worth of hardware

But how many dollars worth of experience, education, and attentiveness?

Re: Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals

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Post by saurik »

kayoone wrote: post #395
saurik wrote: post #378

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I do not understand your comment as I almost never plug my iPhone into my laptop for charging: I plug my iPhone into my laptop as USB is a much faster and more stable transfer conduit than bluetooth (for tethering) and is essentially required for doing most development work.

Ah ok, i didn't think about the mobile developer usecase, thats a valid point. Tethering works fine for me via Bluetooth but i don't use it very often, so that might be valid too. But then a simple USB-C -> Lightning cable will solve your issues right ?

But then we come back to the premise, as you are literally just stopping at the end if my first paragraph: that works until I need to charge my phone and tether or develop at the same time, something of particular importance as there is no way to connect the phone over USB without it draining the battery of the computer into the phone.

Maybe the understanding gap here is that you don't really use your laptop very much? I use my laptop constantly. I am a developer (as are probably most people on this website), and I own a fancy laptop so I can be mobile: not thinking about the use case of a mobile developer is very strange in the context of a conversation about mobile computers in a large group of developers.

(To be clear, to avoid even more miscommunication: despite the relatively small warts in this setup which seem to violate the standard design process of Apple, I like this computer and purposefully chose it with complete knowledge of what cables it would require. I wish it had a second USB-C port instead of the headphone jack, even though that would cause me to carry around another adapter, as the adapter usage would be less, but I appreciate this was essentialy their beta of USB-C and was not where and when they wanted to start the headphone war.)

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Post by saurik »

sundvor wrote: post #392
saurik wrote: post #245

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I would say it "gets better": I have the 12" MacBook. I only have a USB-C port. I have an iPhone. I need a USB-C cable to connect my MacBook to my iPhone. So far, so good! But, I only have one USB-C port. I also want to charge my laptop. So I have a ludicrous dongle from Apple that lets me plug HDMI, USB, and power (over USB-C) at one time. But, the USB port on the dongle is USB-A, and I need to use the USB-C port to…

I have a 13000mah charger unit with 2.1A out for my Samsung phone etc. Quite neat design; why not just get one of these if you're going to be carrying so much stuff around anyway? Could use it as a bit of spare power for the 12" as well.

I don't understand how that helps: that just replaces the power supply. So now I have my laptop charging from the power brick over USB-C and I still need the dongle to attach the phone at the same time as I charge my laptop. (I am guessing you meant to charge the phone; but not only wasn't the premise--the laptop is the device that is going to need to charge, particularly when you are using the phone over USB--it doesn't come up often as the power block for the laptop is just a 29W USB-C charger, so when it doesn't make sense to charge the phone from the laptop as if the laptop were a battery pack I can plug it directly into the wall.)

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Post by mark_l_watson »

nunez wrote: post #377
mark_l_watson wrote: post #46

Apple's share price for the last year is up by about 10%, despite problems with disatisfation over MacBook Pro, no earphone jack, etc. Personally, the only thing I am really disappointed with is slow progress on web services. I was considering moving on from Apple myself, but decided that I like their hardware and my workflow is good on macOS and iOS (on a iPad Pro). I just bought a MacBook and when my Android phone…

I moved onto a Surface after a few years of being on Macs. While there are some minor, yet key, areas that the Surface, and Windows, are behind in (touchpad, power consumption), I think that the gap between them is closing very quickly. Windows has Ubuntu built into it. The kernel goes through a Windows subsystem, so there is a thin layer of syscall translation involved, but it's more or less complete and is highly u…

Before I bought my MacBook in December I spent a week trying to decide between a Surface Pro and the MacBook. I thought the Surface would be a better fit for what I needed, but I have years of time spent on a OSX (maxOS) workflow for writing books and writing Java, Ruby, Haskell, etc. code for consulting customers. I was concerned that it might take months to get re-settled on Windows 10 + Ubuntu subsystem.

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Post by existencebox »

invisible wrote: post #353
existencebox wrote: post #93

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As someone who has climbed the income ladder significantly, I'd beg to differ. My ability to laugh off chastisement has correlated very directly with my financial stability. In fact I'd say the converse seems more likely, in that for someone without financial capital, social capital is all one has, whereas financial capital can certainly supplement or purchase a lack of social capital in many domains.

Not targeting you intentionally but that feels like a really screwed up condition. I hope I either misinterpreted that or that is just an anecdote. If a large group of your peers disapprove of your actions and you don't care, why are you involved with those people at all? What makes you go to work?

To address this and the sister comment;

there are a few subtleties in this that I clearly didn't express well, the mindset is more one of "everything in moderation" than just ignoring criticism. I mostly meant to emphasize memories of e.g. in university, where I had a professor I really looked up to absolutely _gut_ me about some work I had previously been rather proud of. That hit me like a bag of bricks, and I was in a funk for days after. (at that point, that professor was one of the few allies I had at school so I felt entirely adrift.)

Since I've gotten a job, shown competencies over the years in delivering concrete projects, built up financial stability, I've found myself less reliant on the purely social arenas that I was leaning on when first entering the workforce. If someone says something negative, of course I'll give it thought and see if there are any truths in it that I should change my behavior around. But regardless of the answer to that question, I need to be able to move forward in a positive tone, and letting the chastisement "get me down" isn't going to accomplish that. (what I meant by "laugh it off"; in the, even if I was wrong sense, "Oh I've fucked up, better get on fixing that")

In less of a ramble, I've diversified my career stability, so I'm just less concerned about any particular screw-up. How I redress screwups is entirely a separate question.

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