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I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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I was a little brat as well. Lot's of tantrums. My parents punished me (probably not enough). My grandma once said: "how old are you?" This works. Nobody ever gave me drugs. I don't think it is ideal to give kids weed (I'm an adult who can barely handle weed). It is linked with psychiatric problems. That's not anti-drug propaganda, that's a fact. All that said, I don't think this is any worse than giving a kid ritali…

Did you also undergo multiple surgeries on your spinal cord as an infant, have a chronic pain condition and severe autism like the child in the article?

Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The United States always needs an enemy. Hitler, communism, Russia, Viet Cong, acid rain, drugs, them... The war on drugs might subside because of the perfect enemy they have now: terrorists. A faceless, ever-present threat that can keep the war drums beating. What I'd like to see is the military-industrial complex shift their battle to a War on Extinction: space exploration.

I'm glad to see someone else come to a similar conclusion. The one thing i would add: this singular enemy tends to be held generationally. As the generations move in and out of the prime voter ages (and the congresspeople they are voting for) US policy changes dramatically around these vilified groups.

My favorite stoner had very cogent thoughts on perceived and real fears[0], marijuana usage[1] and our easily manipulated lizard brains[2]. Carl Sagan corrupted me for life.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_haunted_world

[1] http://marijuana-uses.com/mr-x/

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dragons_of_Eden

Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

#183

Is the opposition to cannabis as a therapy at least part rooted in the fact it is not patentable? Large Pharma can't make enough money from something people could grow themselves? A parallel story is the guy in the UK researching treating depression with 'magic mushrooms' in small doses (too little to be psychoactive). As I recall it took him 10 years to get a license to do the study! These things grow in your lawn i…

> Is the opposition to cannabis as a therapy at least part rooted in the fact it is not patentable? Large Pharma can't make enough money from something people could grow themselves?

No and no.

Not only is it patentable, the United States Government famously holds one[1] for "Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectant."

Additionally, there are already pharmaceutical companies producing, researching, breeding, and selling medical cannabis in other countries like Israel[2].

And if you're looking to see what's happening in the United States, GW Pharmaceuticals is seeing success in their Phase 3 trials for Dravet Syndrome and Lennox-Gastaut Syndrome[3].

[1] - https://www.google.com/patents/US6630507

[2] - http://www.tikun-olam.info

[3] - https://www.gwpharm.com/about-us/news/gw-announces-new-epidi...

Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

#184
post #74

The war on drugs is probably one of the biggest crime against humanity since WW2 with millions of deaths, millions in prisons, and trillions of dollars and human resources wasted, mostly affecting the poor and minorities everywhere. This needs to stop. Sadly, it looks like it will go on for a few more decades.

The United States always needs an enemy. Hitler, communism, Russia, Viet Cong, acid rain, drugs, them... The war on drugs might subside because of the perfect enemy they have now: terrorists. A faceless, ever-present threat that can keep the war drums beating. What I'd like to see is the military-industrial complex shift their battle to a War on Extinction: space exploration.

> War on Extinction

This is a really good way to phrase it as a marketing campaign. It could be used for global warming, energy problems and like you mention space exploration.

Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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"seven years later, it’s still working." Seems like tolerance isn't really an actual problem here. Are you suggesting these parents have some course of action to cure their child's problems? The child could relapse, but I don't understand what point you're trying to make.

That's fair. While it's possible that changes as the child becomes a man will nullify the medicine, maybe this is a permanent fix. But it's clear that the parents are forced to overmedicate for fear that the child will act out when "coming down." What rubs me the wrong way about this article is that it's written in such a way that any parent whose kid has a problem with tantrums might think, "hm, what if I just drugg…

Overmedicating children is an actual problem. Would be interesting to talk about ways to fix that problem.

OTOH, these specific parents, I can't even imagine what they're going through. My heart goes out to them. A child like this would be so difficult to raise & to help, and obviously they have so much love & dedication just for their willingness to stick it out, I'm so glad a little THC works for them, as opposed to having nothing that works, or some other pharma cocktail that "solves" the problem through vegitating the kid's brain. Anything that gives them a semi-normal existence has to be a Godsend.

Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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The point, though, as I take it, is, would you be satisfied if someone took the time to isolate and synthesize the active ingredients in weed and made those available in prescription form?

> if someone took the time to isolate and synthesize the active ingredients in weed and made those available in prescription form What is the advantage of this over raw plant material?

> What is the advantage of this over raw plant material?

Consistency.

Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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"marijuana is not physically addictive" As a lifetime medical patient, this is not entirely true. There are plenty of physical withdrawal effects. The primary one being headache and hypertension. Another one is lack of dreaming/REM sleep (as cannabis usage depletes your melatonin/serotonin levels, which effects your REM sleep.) "THC doesn't have near the same capability to incapacitate people" THC-Vivarin will hit yo…

>THC-Vivarin Huh?

Vivarin is brand of caffeine pill (haven't heard the name since the Nineties), I've not heard of combining it with THC.

Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The United States always needs an enemy. Hitler, communism, Russia, Viet Cong, acid rain, drugs, them... The war on drugs might subside because of the perfect enemy they have now: terrorists. A faceless, ever-present threat that can keep the war drums beating. What I'd like to see is the military-industrial complex shift their battle to a War on Extinction: space exploration.

Terrorists are an existential threat, but our society doesn't have just one bogeyman: they are around every corner to scare us into doing things we wouldn't normally do. Remember, the terrorists manufacture drugs to sell to us and if you buy drugs you are supporting terrorism. That said, I think it might subside for different reasons. The demographics of drug addiction are changing. Addictive drug use went from being…

> Terrorists are an existential threat

Give me a break. I've never heard a more hyperbolic statement even from diehard warmongers.

There is no conceivable way that terrorists threaten our national existence/security. Even several orders of magnitude more attacks a year would be barely a blip in terms of actual casualties.

Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

#189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Terrorists are an existential threat, but our society doesn't have just one bogeyman: they are around every corner to scare us into doing things we wouldn't normally do. Remember, the terrorists manufacture drugs to sell to us and if you buy drugs you are supporting terrorism. That said, I think it might subside for different reasons. The demographics of drug addiction are changing. Addictive drug use went from being…

> Terrorists are an existential threat Give me a break. I've never heard a more hyperbolic statement even from diehard warmongers. There is no conceivable way that terrorists threaten our national existence/security. Even several orders of magnitude more attacks a year would be barely a blip in terms of actual casualties.

> Give me a break. I've never heard a more hyperbolic statement even from diehard warmongers.

There are sizable portions of the US and Europe that believe muslims are terrorist sympathizers who want to enact Sharia law. To them terrorists, immigrants and muslims are existential threats: they want to blow them up, take their jobs and run their lives and government.

> There is no conceivable way that terrorists threaten our national existence/security.

I agree.

Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

#190

Is the opposition to cannabis as a therapy at least part rooted in the fact it is not patentable? Large Pharma can't make enough money from something people could grow themselves? A parallel story is the guy in the UK researching treating depression with 'magic mushrooms' in small doses (too little to be psychoactive). As I recall it took him 10 years to get a license to do the study! These things grow in your lawn i…

> Is the opposition to cannabis as a therapy at least part rooted in the fact it is not patentable?

The IP is certainly fuzzy but that's no argument. If it can be commoditized and involves some form of creative/innovative work, there's pretty much always some way to create legal protection for it. Besides, just because there's potential for competition doesn't mean that people won't try to enter the market.

> Large Pharma can't make enough money from something people could grow themselves?

As the article itself explains, growing weed is not simple. A sophisticated operation requires a lot of resources and dedicated man-hours.

The primary reason that no big, entrenched players are moving on it (or that anyone who does it hasn't gotten too big) is that the fact remains that marijuana is illegal. (This is true in a lot of countries, not just the U.S., but the rest of this comment is going to be U.S.-specific because I don't know the situation in other countries nearly as well.)

No matter what the states say, federal law overrides state law, which means that anyone that grows pot has huge legal exposure. There's also a secondary problem: pot growers have a lot of trouble using the kinds of services that are traditionally available to businesses, because B2B's (1) want clients that are not at risk of getting shut down by a DEA investigation and (2) do not want to expose their own businesses to legal risk, which they would be by working with a pot-growing op.

There's a lot of stories about dispensaries in Colorado who are denied, for example, banking services, because of the litigation it would expose banks to.

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