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Re: I’m Joining LinkedIn

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Post by sekou »

lomnakkus wrote: post #59
sekou wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know how technology can best help people in different places make money and find the work they want. I think the author is saying that economies of scale helps bigger companies deliver better products and services, but I think moving forward on the other end by enabling the development of specialized software can also be beneficial. In fact by continuing to work on Ember I think the author is actually doing t…

So what were you doing with that whole "fishing" bit? (I mean, I don't necessarily disagree with your position, I just don't think you should try to support it with entirely fictitious examples.)

Honestly I just wrote the first two fields that came to my head when I thought of something LinkedIn isn't particularly optimized for. It may have helped to mention that.

Re: I’m Joining LinkedIn

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Post by bsimpson »

jrowley wrote: post #39
ggregoire wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm glad Ember is gaining more traction in enterprise Isn't Ember mostly used in enterprise?

Apple Music was built in Ember for example. http://builtwithember.io/featured/2015/07/04/apple-music/

Ember is the spiritual successor to Sproutcore, which powered many of Apple's early web apps.

Re: I’m Joining LinkedIn

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Post by lomnakkus »

sekou wrote: post #61
lomnakkus wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So what were you doing with that whole "fishing" bit? (I mean, I don't necessarily disagree with your position, I just don't think you should try to support it with entirely fictitious examples.)

Honestly I just wrote the first two fields that came to my head when I thought of something LinkedIn isn't particularly optimized for. It may have helped to mention that.

That would have helped a lot :).

Re: I’m Joining LinkedIn

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Post by tomrod »

tyingq wrote: post #13

Lots of flagged comments, I suppose because of short quips related to the sleazy things LinkedIn has done in the past. I'm sure he's not unaware of those things. I wonder if he's thinking he may be able to influence them? Discourage dark patterns? Discourage the current mobile experience that's broken unless you download the app and/or log in?

> Discourage dark patterns?

This in of itself may be enough to encourage him (it would be me, if I were interested in his line of work particularly). In essence, dark patterns drive short term profits at the expense of long-term value creation.

Re: I’m Joining LinkedIn

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Post by tomrod »

nissimk wrote: post #43

Does this mean I can expect improvements in the mobile web app? It has so many issues that I won't click the links on my phone. No, I don't want the android app. Stop asking me. Stop directing me to my home page when I clicked a link to go deep into the site. And please stop showing that spinner for unlimited time. Also, these may be back end issues but both the desktop and mobile web sites fail to update the notific…

I agree, it really is a terrible experience. If I've received a notification from a service, I want near instantaneous response. The whole waiting-for-more-than-3-minutes to load business is disturbing to me.

Re: I’m Joining LinkedIn

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Post by twblalock »

kethinov wrote: post #51

> Perhaps you can write a tiny web app that loads instantly and still retains a full set of features, but most of the world cannot. I've long been skeptical of this line of thinking emanating from major thick client JS framework authors. I think they underestimate what people are capable of. > Over time, Ember will become like gcc -O3 for web apps, intelligently optimizing them and delivering them as fast as possible…

Which frameworks claim to target "devs who can't hand code"?

Re: I’m Joining LinkedIn

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Post by dozzie »

wmil wrote: post #42
tyingq wrote: post #13

Lots of flagged comments, I suppose because of short quips related to the sleazy things LinkedIn has done in the past. I'm sure he's not unaware of those things. I wonder if he's thinking he may be able to influence them? Discourage dark patterns? Discourage the current mobile experience that's broken unless you download the app and/or log in?

He's probably thinking that past sleazy behavior was driven by a need for revenue. The Microsoft purchase changes that. MS needs to protect it's reputation more than it needs revenue from Linkedin.

If Microsoft felt it needs to protect its reputation, our industry wouldn't have the Windows 10 calamity (user tracking, advertising built into the very OS, and unsolicited auto-update to Win10).

Re: I’m Joining LinkedIn

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Post by sotojuan »

kethinov wrote: post #51

> Perhaps you can write a tiny web app that loads instantly and still retains a full set of features, but most of the world cannot. I've long been skeptical of this line of thinking emanating from major thick client JS framework authors. I think they underestimate what people are capable of. > Over time, Ember will become like gcc -O3 for web apps, intelligently optimizing them and delivering them as fast as possible…

Unfortunately a lot of us in HN make our living writing thick clients that ultimately perform worse than server-rendered apps with little benefit. It's just too easy to find a front end dev job that pays well, at least where I live.

Re: I’m Joining LinkedIn

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Post by tkxxx7 »

wstrange wrote: post #57
wmil wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's probably thinking that past sleazy behavior was driven by a need for revenue. The Microsoft purchase changes that. MS needs to protect it's reputation more than it needs revenue from Linkedin.

Microsoft paid 26 Billion for Linkedin. I'm pretty sure they expect to extract revenue out of them.

They paid for the largest professional social graph in existence. That is inherent value they can use to strengthen their own product line (or "synergy" or whatever term they've been using).

Re: I’m Joining LinkedIn

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Post by ctvo »

RangerScience wrote: post #41
treehau5 wrote: post #14

We need specialists too. We need the folks who can tune x86 assembly better than -gcc 03. We need people who can write segfault free C++ code, and we need people to fix the Rust borrow checker bugs http://blog.ezyang.com/2013/12/two-bugs-in-the-borrow-checke... There are plenty of available consumer of good tools, with more coming into the market every day. We need more specialists. Every person has the same capacity…

> Every person has the same capacity, the same brain, the same capability to become an Einstein God, I wish this were true, but it definitely isn't. We're trained to think it is, by virtue of (first) our belief in meritocracy (it's value, and that we're in one), and (second) by RPGs and other games. Our baseline cultural assumption is that things are, in the end, fairly balanced... but this just isn't the case. I thi…

> ... and (second) by RPGs and other games.

I was expecting our western values rooted in the belief that all men are created equal or something.

I really don't think RPGs and other games have somehow conditioned us (the niche market that even plays them) to think we're capable of anything, but I quit WoW a long time ago.

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