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Re: I’m Joining LinkedIn

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Post by RangerScience »

treehau5 wrote: post #14

We need specialists too. We need the folks who can tune x86 assembly better than -gcc 03. We need people who can write segfault free C++ code, and we need people to fix the Rust borrow checker bugs http://blog.ezyang.com/2013/12/two-bugs-in-the-borrow-checke... There are plenty of available consumer of good tools, with more coming into the market every day. We need more specialists. Every person has the same capacity…

> Every person has the same capacity, the same brain, the same capability to become an Einstein

God, I wish this were true, but it definitely isn't. We're trained to think it is, by virtue of (first) our belief in meritocracy (it's value, and that we're in one), and (second) by RPGs and other games.

Our baseline cultural assumption is that things are, in the end, fairly balanced... but this just isn't the case.

I think it's demonstrable via the existing of evolution: There have to be differences between individuals on an inheritable level in order for evolution to occur, and if there are such differences, the playing field is NOT even.

Re: I’m Joining LinkedIn

#42

Post by wmil »

tyingq wrote: post #13

Lots of flagged comments, I suppose because of short quips related to the sleazy things LinkedIn has done in the past. I'm sure he's not unaware of those things. I wonder if he's thinking he may be able to influence them? Discourage dark patterns? Discourage the current mobile experience that's broken unless you download the app and/or log in?

He's probably thinking that past sleazy behavior was driven by a need for revenue. The Microsoft purchase changes that. MS needs to protect it's reputation more than it needs revenue from Linkedin.

Re: I’m Joining LinkedIn

#43

Post by nissimk »

Does this mean I can expect improvements in the mobile web app? It has so many issues that I won't click the links on my phone.

No, I don't want the android app. Stop asking me.

Stop directing me to my home page when I clicked a link to go deep into the site.

And please stop showing that spinner for unlimited time.

Also, these may be back end issues but both the desktop and mobile web sites fail to update the notification indicators after you've responded to friend requests or read your feed.

Re: I’m Joining LinkedIn

#44

Post by lomnakkus »

sekou wrote: post #38

> artisanal, shade-grown code doesn’t scale to large engineering organizations Some leeway could me made around that statement. People who work in fishing and agricultural industries for example could benefit from unique and specially crafted services when it comes to job search and fulfillment. There is a certain effectiveness in the one-size-fits-all approach of applications like Facebook but it could stand to exis…

> Some leeway could me made around that statement.

What do you mean? Who needs the leeway?

(I suspect "artisanal, shade-grown code" just means "bad", but perhaps stated in a more PR-friendly way.)

> People who work in fishing and agricultural[...]

What are you talking about?

I've known several people who work in fishing (fish farming, specifically), and I can assure you that they weren't particularly concerned about "job search" or "fulfillment". They were concerned about maximizing profit amidst the intense competition.

Can you relate what your fish-worker acquaintances/friends told you?

Re: I’m Joining LinkedIn

#45

Post by inopinatus »

mateo411 wrote: post #34
komali2 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But if it works, how is it a gamble?

You are choosing an outcome which you think will happen in the future. It is not certain that this outcome will happen.

I think a gamble needs to be predominantly a game of chance. Merely having an outcome that isn't certain would cause any choice to be labelled a "gamble", from crossing the road to turning on the kettle.

Instead I believe choosing the right software platform is predominantly a game of skill and experience.

Remember that old canard, "a poor craftsperson blames their tools"; the corollary is that a good craftsperson chooses good tools.

Re: I’m Joining LinkedIn

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Post by lomnakkus »

komali2 wrote: post #31
daurnimator wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren't they? If there are two competing technologies, generally one will dominate, or more likely: both will be replaced by something new. You have to gamble that the technology you pick will stay relevant for long enough to be worth it.

But if it works, how is it a gamble?

It's a choice between multiple (all workable) options. The "gamble" is about how well-supported (&c) those options will be in the future.

Re: I’m Joining LinkedIn

#47

Post by inopinatus »

sergiotapia wrote: post #21
dkarapetyan wrote: post #12

> LinkedIn has bet big on Ember. I like how as technologists we talk about "betting" on things. As if technology choices are like gambles.

They are bets. In the global market if you pick the wrong tool you severely limit your talent pool and upgrade path. Imagine being stuck on Marionette and Backbone these days. Tough to attract talent with old technology like that. And this is the global market. Imagine how worse it is if you want to hire local. Yikes.

That is not a bet. Choosing the wrong tool and blaming one's failure on "chance", on "losing a bet", is a classic case of denial. A smarter thing to say is "I made a mistake", and learn from it rather than denying it.

Re: I’m Joining LinkedIn

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Post by blub »

tyingq wrote: post #13

Lots of flagged comments, I suppose because of short quips related to the sleazy things LinkedIn has done in the past. I'm sure he's not unaware of those things. I wonder if he's thinking he may be able to influence them? Discourage dark patterns? Discourage the current mobile experience that's broken unless you download the app and/or log in?

LinkedIn's behavior is driven by profit. They want advertising money and are willing to sacrifice their users for that, just like Google, Facebook and more recently Microsoft, which happens to own LinkedIn.

This person probably just wants to work on interesting things (for them) and get paid well, just like the thousands of employees at the other companies I mentioned. Fighting for ethical software doesn't pay. Nor does it make one particularly popular.

Re: I’m Joining LinkedIn

#49

Post by WillEngler »

lomnakkus wrote: post #44
sekou wrote: post #38

> artisanal, shade-grown code doesn’t scale to large engineering organizations Some leeway could me made around that statement. People who work in fishing and agricultural industries for example could benefit from unique and specially crafted services when it comes to job search and fulfillment. There is a certain effectiveness in the one-size-fits-all approach of applications like Facebook but it could stand to exis…

> Some leeway could me made around that statement. What do you mean? Who needs the leeway? (I suspect "artisanal, shade-grown code" just means "bad", but perhaps stated in a more PR-friendly way.) > People who work in fishing and agricultural[...] What are you talking about? I've known several people who work in fishing (fish farming, specifically), and I can assure you that they weren't particularly concerned about…

I thought "artisanal, shade-grown code" was such a delightful phrase. I took it to mean not bad, but rather too costly for practical/mass use. Like some people can afford to buy $6 lattes, and those are likely very tasty lattes, but Folgers is going to move more beans.

Re: I’m Joining LinkedIn

#50

Post by refractiveco »

WillEngler wrote: post #49
lomnakkus wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Some leeway could me made around that statement. What do you mean? Who needs the leeway? (I suspect "artisanal, shade-grown code" just means "bad", but perhaps stated in a more PR-friendly way.) > People who work in fishing and agricultural[...] What are you talking about? I've known several people who work in fishing (fish farming, specifically), and I can assure you that they weren't particularly concerned about…

I thought "artisanal, shade-grown code" was such a delightful phrase. I took it to mean not bad, but rather too costly for practical/mass use. Like some people can afford to buy $6 lattes, and those are likely very tasty lattes, but Folgers is going to move more beans.

I think it's referencing middle-out compression.
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