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Re: I’m Joining LinkedIn

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Post by darfs »

aosaigh wrote: post #9
fiatjaf wrote: post #8

So Tom Dale is one of the creators of Ember. Now he is joining LinkedIn to work with Ember. I think this is a little sad. I can't stop imagining that he thinks that something like React is better than Ember in all situations, but since he has such high Ember credentials and somehow LinkedIn decided to go with Ember then he feels he must accept that job.

Huh? Why would you think that?

I think here we have the "my tooling/programming language is the best, in every situation everytime".

I could be wrong. Edit: typos

Re: I’m Joining LinkedIn

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Post by tyingq »

Lots of flagged comments, I suppose because of short quips related to the sleazy things LinkedIn has done in the past.

I'm sure he's not unaware of those things. I wonder if he's thinking he may be able to influence them? Discourage dark patterns? Discourage the current mobile experience that's broken unless you download the app and/or log in?

Re: I’m Joining LinkedIn

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Post by treehau5 »

We need specialists too. We need the folks who can tune x86 assembly better than -gcc 03. We need people who can write segfault free C++ code, and we need people to fix the Rust borrow checker bugs http://blog.ezyang.com/2013/12/two-bugs-in-the-borrow-checke...

There are plenty of available consumer of good tools, with more coming into the market every day. We need more specialists. Every person has the same capacity, the same brain, the same capability to become an Einstein, a Hoare, a Dijkstra, a whatever modern Comp Sci figure or AI leader you admire these days.

Re: I’m Joining LinkedIn

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Post by daurnimator »

dkarapetyan wrote: post #12

> LinkedIn has bet big on Ember. I like how as technologists we talk about "betting" on things. As if technology choices are like gambles.

Aren't they?

If there are two competing technologies, generally one will dominate, or more likely: both will be replaced by something new. You have to gamble that the technology you pick will stay relevant for long enough to be worth it.

Re: I’m Joining LinkedIn

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Post by dasil003 »

fiatjaf wrote: post #8

So Tom Dale is one of the creators of Ember. Now he is joining LinkedIn to work with Ember. I think this is a little sad. I can't stop imagining that he thinks that something like React is better than Ember in all situations, but since he has such high Ember credentials and somehow LinkedIn decided to go with Ember then he feels he must accept that job.

Is there a typo here? Why would he think React is better than Ember?

In any case, I think it's most likely that A) they are throwing a boatload of money at him, more than he could probably get anywhere else and B) giving him full autonomy to continue his desired work in a context where he has direct access to a lot of the hairiest problems.

Open source work is not known to be the most lucrative, so opportunities like this are very attractive, I really can't fault him for it.

Re: I’m Joining LinkedIn

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Post by __derek__ »

dkarapetyan wrote: post #12

> LinkedIn has bet big on Ember. I like how as technologists we talk about "betting" on things. As if technology choices are like gambles.

Given the fact of uncertainty about the future, investing in anything (e.g., building applications using a particular framework) is a gamble. Granted, the ability to re-write is a good hedge, but you're still hedging a bet.

Re: I’m Joining LinkedIn

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Post by steveklabnik »

treehau5 wrote: post #14

We need specialists too. We need the folks who can tune x86 assembly better than -gcc 03. We need people who can write segfault free C++ code, and we need people to fix the Rust borrow checker bugs http://blog.ezyang.com/2013/12/two-bugs-in-the-borrow-checke... There are plenty of available consumer of good tools, with more coming into the market every day. We need more specialists. Every person has the same capacity…

(note for those playing along at home: both of those "bugs" come down to the same issue, which is lexical vs non-lexical analysis. That post was written in 2013, but adding the non-lexical feature has taken quite a long time, requiring a huge refactor to the compiler internally. We're just now getting to the point where the feature could actually be worked on directly.)

I firmly agree with your point here; we need more people of all kinds. Specialists, generalists, communicators, community organizers, all of it. Since this is an ember thread, I'll link to Yehuda: https://twitter.com/wycats/status/675498087717056512

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