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Facebook’s Gone Rogue; It’s Time for an Open Alternative

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Re: Facebook’s Gone Rogue; It’s Time for an Open Alternative

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> I’d like to make my friend list private. Cannot. > I’d like to have my profile visible only to my friends, not my boss. Cannot. > I’d like to support an anti-abortion group without my mother or the world knowing. Cannot. Great examples of what Facebook cannot do, and what the Facebook replacement must do.

Good article. Reinforces some of the suggestions given on Facebook And Twitter Will Always Be Crappy Businesses http://bit.ly/cMiQLa

Re: Facebook’s Gone Rogue; It’s Time for an Open Alternative

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post #36

I think that there should be a push to build upon the idea of using XHTML markup to create a distributed social network. Formally known as XFN?

why do you single out XHTML? a markup language is not relevant to the problem.

besides, XHTML never caught on. otoh, HTML5 is doing great.

Re: Facebook’s Gone Rogue; It’s Time for an Open Alternative

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Same as Linux ... By the time the community effort got it together, most of the effort was obsolete Care to explain, how all the effort in Linux was obsolute ? (And i am on Ubuntu Linux typing this reply)

I think he meant "most of the effort that went into a good userland GUI experience, from FreeDesktop et al" is wasted when your display is 100% filled by an HTML frame, ala ChromeOS. The Linux kernel is certainly not a waste.

It's a bit facile to compare something that works and has a few flaws, but is used by a great deal of people, with something that still isn't out of beta and isn't really used by anyone.

Re: Facebook’s Gone Rogue; It’s Time for an Open Alternative

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Same as Linux ... By the time the community effort got it together, most of the effort was obsolete Care to explain, how all the effort in Linux was obsolute ? (And i am on Ubuntu Linux typing this reply)

I think he meant "most of the effort that went into a good userland GUI experience, from FreeDesktop et al" is wasted when your display is 100% filled by an HTML frame, ala ChromeOS. The Linux kernel is certainly not a waste.

Yes Ubuntu isn't going anywhere. App developers want one and only one OS and Ubuntu doesn't make life easier by being free.

As far as new technologies, I imagine internet protocols and bandwidth in 2018 will make it possible to share massive databases of information. New parallel chips will enable anyone to analyze massive databases of information, a whole economy of data sharing could emerge. New possibilities in online education, government, healthcare will all depend on the availability of currently private data.

By 2030 we will be living in "The Matrix" where AIs will learn from us by monitoring every single thought we have.

It's an important perspective. Facebook is just a tiny step, just like Windows was. They don't need to be perfect. Most importantly they should not be imitated or duplicated with a "free and uber-private" label. They need to be rethought with the long term perspective in mind.

What's the point of privacy? Do people care about distant data miners going through their lives or do they just want to avoid being fired or ridiculed by those close to them? And if some data miners gain magic knowledge on how to manipulate the masses, don't get paranoid. It's likely government will be redesigned around the new technology by then.

Re: Facebook’s Gone Rogue; It’s Time for an Open Alternative

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post #26

> I’d like to make my friend list private. Cannot. > I’d like to have my profile visible only to my friends, not my boss. Cannot. > I’d like to support an anti-abortion group without my mother or the world knowing. Cannot. Great examples of what Facebook cannot do, and what the Facebook replacement must do.

A. Go to profile -> down to friends list -> click on the pencil -> Remove the tick in the box (Will still show mutual friends though)

B. Change your privacy settings, Make it so you can only be found by searching certain things (eg: email address), Block your boss

C. Unfortunately not (yet?)

Re: Facebook’s Gone Rogue; It’s Time for an Open Alternative

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post #44
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think he meant "most of the effort that went into a good userland GUI experience, from FreeDesktop et al" is wasted when your display is 100% filled by an HTML frame, ala ChromeOS. The Linux kernel is certainly not a waste.

It's a bit facile to compare something that works and has a few flaws, but is used by a great deal of people, with something that still isn't out of beta and isn't really used by anyone.

You mean desktop linux vs the web? Or even Linux vs iPhone OS?

Re: Facebook’s Gone Rogue; It’s Time for an Open Alternative

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post #15

Yea let's get an open alternative, a few years of coding, a few years of Facebook screwing up, a massive hatefest, and it will have 30% penetration in 2018. By then there will be new technologies that will make the issue irrelevant. Same as Linux and Firefox. By the time the community effort got it together, most of the effort was obsolete. Google's Chrome OS throws much of linux away. NativeClient sandboxing turns b…

FWIW, I have written a facebook clone in Common Lisp and took me 2 months. It has profile pages, a platform for 3rd party apps, elaborate RBAC-based security, and a rudimentary service API. If anybody wants to take this in some direction, I am more than happy to come aboard.

Why don't you slap it on a cheap VPS and start an invite-only beta for prospective buyers? You might even make some decent money off it :)
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