"It’s time the rest of the web ecosystem recognizes this and works to replace it with something open and distributed." Before Facebook there was FOAF, which was exactly the same except for that it was open and distributed... And nobody used it. Being closed is the only thing that makes Facebook good.
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#12"It’s time the rest of the web ecosystem recognizes this and works to replace it with something open and distributed." Before Facebook there was FOAF, which was exactly the same except for that it was open and distributed... And nobody used it. Being closed is the only thing that makes Facebook good.
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#14"It’s time the rest of the web ecosystem recognizes this and works to replace it with something open and distributed." Before Facebook there was FOAF, which was exactly the same except for that it was open and distributed... And nobody used it. Being closed is the only thing that makes Facebook good.
Now that they appear to have given up that angle and replaced it with an unpredictable tangle of spurious logic that, yes, spews stuff haphazardly all over the open web, why not just publish your updates in the open?
What needs to happen now is that someone needs to go into Facebook's old business, the one they have apparently abandoned. Where is the closed service that makes a best-effort attempt to provide an invite-only social space for myself and my friends?
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#15Same as Linux and Firefox. By the time the community effort got it together, most of the effort was obsolete. Google's Chrome OS throws much of linux away. NativeClient sandboxing turns browsers and plugins into frameworks of choice, like jQuery.
There has to be a more efficient way.
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#16The fact is for something like Facebook to function smoothly, it has to be centralized. There has to be a server somewhere out there that can be queried reliably for this data and that's the bottom line, even if you have something API-based like OpenSocial. It's just a matter of who you're going to trust with that data -- and as we see over and over again, money and power clouds judgment; a good candidate to control this network when it's starting out may not hold up so well under the barrages of billions in revenue and investors down the neck.
The only way for users to have real control over their data is to build some P2P/self-hosting architecture, and for reasons all HN readers understand, this would be a huge, huge mess.
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#17I love that there's a Facebook Like widget in the right column as you scroll down.
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#18"It’s time the rest of the web ecosystem recognizes this and works to replace it with something open and distributed." Before Facebook there was FOAF, which was exactly the same except for that it was open and distributed... And nobody used it. Being closed is the only thing that makes Facebook good.
Presenting itself initially as Harvard's yearbook is what made it good, as it kickstarted its network effects (everyone feels sort of obligated to be "in the yearbook," because they want to imagine they will be reminisced about.) I've seen FOAF profiles, but I've never seen a FOAF network .
Yeah, because no one is going to give 700 million dollars to a bunch of hippies to make some internet commune.
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#19Not because I have a vested interest in them, but I don't have any info I need to keep private (I make sure of this) and I am not one to buy into hype and running around with your hands in the air.
Go ahead, downvote me for not being a Facebook alarmist. I do apologize though if I put it too curtly.
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#20Can someone show evidence of this statement? "Now, say you you write a public update, saying, “My boss had a crazy great idea for a new product!” Now, you might not know it, but there is a Facebook page for “My Crazy Boss” and because your post had all the right words, your post now shows up on that page. Include the words “FBI” or “CIA,” and you show up on the FBI or CIA page." That is scary.
If you don't want your status messages to be visible to everyone, set your privacy settings accordingly. Account -> Privacy Settings -> Personal Information and Posts and adjust the "Posts by Me" setting to whatever you like.