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Re: Edward Snowden’s Escape from Hong Kong [audio]

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Post by dragonwriter » Thu, Dec 29, 2016, 6:48 PM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #78

thenomad wrote: post #55

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Fascinating! I wouldn't have called either of those. Why Argentina?

> Why Argentina? Same core reasons as Kerala [1]. You're looking for places which would remain stable if America collapsed and where America would have a hard time projecting influence if it didn't. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13276490

Argentine seems an odd choice if you are looking for a place to remain stable in the event of (or, for that matter, in the absence of) a US collapse.

I mean, it's not even a particularly great choice in South America by that standard.

Re: Edward Snowden’s Escape from Hong Kong [audio]

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Post by georgespencer » Fri, Dec 30, 2016, 4:42 PM UTC

__jal wrote: post #75

georgespencer wrote: post #48

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One of the most disappointing things about the last election cycle in the U.S. and Brexit here in the U.K. has been people happily accepting euphemism and hyperbole as part of political/social rhetoric. Maybe it's been happening for a while, but to me it felt like a sudden shift. Bannon is a "white supremacist" because he was accused of making a single antisemitic remark by his ex-wife, during divorce proceedings, wh…

The solution is not to overcorrect and massively downplay. The reaction to Bannon is not because of a single incident. Go peruse breitbart.com to take in some of his editorial direction - be sure to check the 'black crime' tag. The reaction to Trump is not about a bland policy disagreement; the reaction is to claims of "Mexican rapists" and promises (revokable depending on moon-phase, apparently) to target Muslim imm…

> The reaction to Bannon is not because of a single incident. Go peruse breitbart.com to take in some of his editorial direction - be sure to check the 'black crime' tag.

That doesn't make him a white supremacist I'm afraid. There is a level of precision one would commonly associate with that term which is not simply the result of him allowing neoconservative interpretations of crime statistics.

Re: Edward Snowden’s Escape from Hong Kong [audio]

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Post by georgespencer » Sat, Dec 31, 2016, 1:01 PM UTC

forgetsusername wrote: post #57

smcl wrote: post #50

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Trump was called a fascist because he wanted to create a registry of muslims and spent a good while castigating Mexicans before somehow attempting to walk it back. He was called a white nationalist because he courted extremely controversial figures like David Duke. I do think people are often too quick to go to extremes when using terms like "fascist" and "socialist" (abused by both sides), but I don't think it's a s…

> He was called a white nationalist because he courted extremely controversial figures like David Duke. Can explain what you mean by the use of the word "courted"? I'm not overly familiar with the ordeal, but according to this from the Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/03/... It doesn't sound like he is attaching himself to David Duke in any way. Politicians (everyone, really)…

Bingo. There's a huge leap from "someone endorsed or voted for Trump" to "Trump is a white nationalist". Look at Bannon as an example. If he's an antisemite -- truly -- he's going to have real problems working in an administration with Trump's observant Jewish son-in-law.

Re: Edward Snowden’s Escape from Hong Kong [audio]

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Post by deepakprakash » Fri, Jan 06, 2017, 3:16 PM UTC

Evgeny wrote: post #38

deepakprakash wrote: post #27

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I am from Kerala and genuinely curious - why Kerala? And why Argentina for that matter?

I have never heard the name before, but: Kerala has the lowest positive population growth rate in India, 3.44%; highest Human Development Index (HDI), 0.790 in 2011; the highest literacy rate, 93.91% in the 2011 census; the highest life expectancy, 77 years; and the highest sex ratio, 1,084 women per 1000 men. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerala Interesting!

Yup, we managed to get some things right. Interesting read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerala_model