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Re: Chrome browser for businesses

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Post by ENGNR »

krzyk wrote: post #18

Is this about replacing one monopoly with another? It is slowly starting too look like in the early 00's, most developers are starting to support only chrome, with no testing in Firefox or latest IE. On Android it is even worse, no one is testing with Firefox Mobile (Fennec) - this is WinXP-IE6 all over again.

They seem pretty good about using the open specification.

Also they're starting to phase out -webkit tags for experimental chrome only features. They're hidden behind flags so you basically can't use them in production unless it's endorsed as part of the spec.

Not to derail but safari mobile is the real IE6, plus lock in so users can't even get away from it.

Re: Chrome browser for businesses

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Post by simfoo »

krzyk wrote: post #18

Is this about replacing one monopoly with another? It is slowly starting too look like in the early 00's, most developers are starting to support only chrome, with no testing in Firefox or latest IE. On Android it is even worse, no one is testing with Firefox Mobile (Fennec) - this is WinXP-IE6 all over again.

>On Android it is even worse, no one is testing with Firefox Mobile (Fennec) - this is WinXP-IE6 all over again.

I'm always surprised why this is the case. Firefox Mobile + UBlock Origin works really well and is only very slightly slower than Chrome, while also blocking ads

Re: Chrome browser for businesses

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Post by bpizzi »

frik wrote: post #28
BinaryIdiot wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I completely agree. It's re-enforced with Chrome's supplied dev tools which are really, really nice (I always found them far better than Firefox's built-in or Firebug). It's going to be harder to unseat Chrome. IE 6 wasn't so difficult due to an increase in competition who offered features that IE wasn't even working on (standards, tabs, etc). How would you even unseat Chrome?

Safari and nowadays Chrome DevTools are great. I miss the "DOM" tab, that Firebug for Firefox had features had, and I haven't found anywhere else. You can browse the DOM tree state and edit - similar to Smalltalk and Windows Registry - very useful & powerful. Sadly, they just killed Firebug, broke the addon, deactivated it with an update and replaced it with a still not feature-complete (at the moment sub-par) soluti…

I think that what you're asking for is already doable in the "Elements" tabs of Chrome DevTools, no? Or maybe I didn't get what you really meant by "You can browse the DOM tree state and edit"?

Re: Chrome browser for businesses

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Post by alrs »

cimnine wrote: post #26
ktta wrote: post #9

I think most interesting part of all this is that they're offering support for this[1]. So that and it now being a part of G suite is making it an 'official' service/product. And since Chromium browser is an open source browser which receives many contributions from many developers[2], this will add Google to the list of companies which take contributions from OSS and make money off it. Please correct me if I'm wrong…

Look at Elastic's product, i.e. Elasticsearch, Logstash, Kibana, etc. Or Oracle with MySQL and Java. Redhat's OpenStack. Spring for Java. EhCache. Even .NET from Microsoft is also starting to accept third-party work. There are a lot of such examples, and that's usually a good thing. Because it means that there is someone with a different interest, than just working on cool things, behind the product (i.e. Money) and…

If Openstack were to belong to anyone it would be Rackspace, not Redhat. It hasn't belonged to anyone for a very long time.

I'd put money on Openstack (minus Swift) being an entirely legacy project by 2020.

Re: Chrome browser for businesses

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Post by vorticalbox »

simfoo wrote: post #32
krzyk wrote: post #18

Is this about replacing one monopoly with another? It is slowly starting too look like in the early 00's, most developers are starting to support only chrome, with no testing in Firefox or latest IE. On Android it is even worse, no one is testing with Firefox Mobile (Fennec) - this is WinXP-IE6 all over again.

>On Android it is even worse, no one is testing with Firefox Mobile (Fennec) - this is WinXP-IE6 all over again. I'm always surprised why this is the case. Firefox Mobile + UBlock Origin works really well and is only very slightly slower than Chrome, while also blocking ads

Chrome is more convenient in that it syncs everything once you sign in and Firefox sync system just doesn't feel as refined.

Probably doesn't help that google plaster "get google chrome" over all of their services.

Re: Chrome browser for businesses

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Post by kuschku »

simfoo wrote: post #32
krzyk wrote: post #18

Is this about replacing one monopoly with another? It is slowly starting too look like in the early 00's, most developers are starting to support only chrome, with no testing in Firefox or latest IE. On Android it is even worse, no one is testing with Firefox Mobile (Fennec) - this is WinXP-IE6 all over again.

>On Android it is even worse, no one is testing with Firefox Mobile (Fennec) - this is WinXP-IE6 all over again. I'm always surprised why this is the case. Firefox Mobile + UBlock Origin works really well and is only very slightly slower than Chrome, while also blocking ads

Firefox Mobile works because it has a huge set of fixes they use for exactly that – changing UA on some sites, patching the code of other sites, implementing all the -webkit-* things, etc.

It’s not that sites support Firefox, it’s that Firefox tries to implement 1:1 what Chrome does. At far less than a tenth of the budget.

Re: Chrome browser for businesses

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Post by eb0la »

I guess this is more oriented to the devices like, meeting room hardware (can it be plugged to a VoIP server / Avaya switch?) that predates Polycom and Cisco markets... using hangouts.

I guess for the TCO for Digital Signage devices is cheaper than the incumbents (cost of Android signage app/web app vs Windows app/web app + remote management control).

Re: Chrome browser for businesses

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Post by DannyBee »

krzyk wrote: post #18

Is this about replacing one monopoly with another? It is slowly starting too look like in the early 00's, most developers are starting to support only chrome, with no testing in Firefox or latest IE. On Android it is even worse, no one is testing with Firefox Mobile (Fennec) - this is WinXP-IE6 all over again.

"It is slowly starting too look like in the early 00's, most developers are starting to support only chrome, with no testing in Firefox or latest IE. "

Certainly you realize this kind of cycle has been going on for longer than that. In browsers, yeah, but that's only because browsers have only existed that long.

This is pretty much the way of all software cycles since the dawn of computers. No area of software that i'm aware of has really broken out of this kind of cyclic behavior.

Sorry :(

Re: Chrome browser for businesses

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Post by whateveracct »

reitanqild wrote: post #27
m-p-3 wrote: post #15

This isn't a new thing at all, but more awareness to the sysadmins shouldn't hurt. Also, let me point you to the Legacy Browser Support extension. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/legacy-browser-sup... With proper GPOs you can force a domain/subdomain to open in IE directly from any links.

For Firefox there is (was?) IETab which lets you open websites in IE tabs inside Firefox. I think there was even an option to specify that certain websites (e.g. the Intranet, certain banks) should always open in IETab. Haven't used it for years but back when I was a Windows sysadmin it was the final proof that FF was better than IE: in addition to being Firefox it could also be IE : )

IETab - now that's a blast from the past o.O
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