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Re: Chrome browser for businesses

#21

Post by notgood »

krzyk wrote: post #18

Is this about replacing one monopoly with another? It is slowly starting too look like in the early 00's, most developers are starting to support only chrome, with no testing in Firefox or latest IE. On Android it is even worse, no one is testing with Firefox Mobile (Fennec) - this is WinXP-IE6 all over again.

Yeah, no; most times when you test in Firefox it works just fine with no changes; specially when you already tried on mobile, because if it works in mobile it works on desktop Firefox.

The other thing is that major libraries (CSS, JS: jQuery, bootstrap, React) make sure they work on all browsers so you don't have to worry about that part.

The winXP-IE6 was hell because that never happened, you always had to changes to make it work on IE6 and some other changes to support IE7 and so on.

Re: Chrome browser for businesses

#22

Post by Insanity »

notgood wrote: post #21
krzyk wrote: post #18

Is this about replacing one monopoly with another? It is slowly starting too look like in the early 00's, most developers are starting to support only chrome, with no testing in Firefox or latest IE. On Android it is even worse, no one is testing with Firefox Mobile (Fennec) - this is WinXP-IE6 all over again.

Yeah, no; most times when you test in Firefox it works just fine with no changes; specially when you already tried on mobile, because if it works in mobile it works on desktop Firefox. The other thing is that major libraries (CSS, JS: jQuery, bootstrap, React) make sure they work on all browsers so you don't have to worry about that part. The winXP-IE6 was hell because that never happened, you always had to changes t…

Most times but not always unfortunately. Had a couple of times that I did not check a small frontend change on firefox because I assumed a small change would be fine, yet had different results in chrome as on firefox.

I did not check on mobile though.

Re: Chrome browser for businesses

#23

Post by BinaryIdiot »

krzyk wrote: post #18

Is this about replacing one monopoly with another? It is slowly starting too look like in the early 00's, most developers are starting to support only chrome, with no testing in Firefox or latest IE. On Android it is even worse, no one is testing with Firefox Mobile (Fennec) - this is WinXP-IE6 all over again.

I completely agree. It's re-enforced with Chrome's supplied dev tools which are really, really nice (I always found them far better than Firefox's built-in or Firebug).

It's going to be harder to unseat Chrome. IE 6 wasn't so difficult due to an increase in competition who offered features that IE wasn't even working on (standards, tabs, etc). How would you even unseat Chrome?

Re: Chrome browser for businesses

#24

Post by disiplus »

krzyk wrote: post #18

Is this about replacing one monopoly with another? It is slowly starting too look like in the early 00's, most developers are starting to support only chrome, with no testing in Firefox or latest IE. On Android it is even worse, no one is testing with Firefox Mobile (Fennec) - this is WinXP-IE6 all over again.

while i agree with you ( i use firefox on my macbook and on my nexus 6 ) the situation is not even close to the one with ie6, everybody that has be doing web development in those days knows what im talking about, now days its usually some little quirk, those days you had to rewrite parts of your code or have big if(IE6) do something completely different.

while i also hate that chrome has such a big influence, if all of them implement the common specs, i would be ok with that.

Re: Chrome browser for businesses

#25

Post by paulddraper »

BinaryIdiot wrote: post #23
krzyk wrote: post #18

Is this about replacing one monopoly with another? It is slowly starting too look like in the early 00's, most developers are starting to support only chrome, with no testing in Firefox or latest IE. On Android it is even worse, no one is testing with Firefox Mobile (Fennec) - this is WinXP-IE6 all over again.

I completely agree. It's re-enforced with Chrome's supplied dev tools which are really, really nice (I always found them far better than Firefox's built-in or Firebug). It's going to be harder to unseat Chrome. IE 6 wasn't so difficult due to an increase in competition who offered features that IE wasn't even working on (standards, tabs, etc). How would you even unseat Chrome?

Don't use 8GB of memory?

Nah, people have lots of memory.

I honestly don't know (but...then that's not such a bad thing, right?).

Re: Chrome browser for businesses

#26

Post by cimnine »

ktta wrote: post #9

I think most interesting part of all this is that they're offering support for this[1]. So that and it now being a part of G suite is making it an 'official' service/product. And since Chromium browser is an open source browser which receives many contributions from many developers[2], this will add Google to the list of companies which take contributions from OSS and make money off it. Please correct me if I'm wrong…

Look at Elastic's product, i.e. Elasticsearch, Logstash, Kibana, etc. Or Oracle with MySQL and Java. Redhat's OpenStack. Spring for Java. EhCache. Even .NET from Microsoft is also starting to accept third-party work. There are a lot of such examples, and that's usually a good thing. Because it means that there is someone with a different interest, than just working on cool things, behind the product (i.e. Money) and driving it foreward. Also, having professional support offered makes it sometimes much easier when convincing stakeholders to build upon an OSS product instead of a closed source equivalent.

Re: Chrome browser for businesses

#27

Post by reitanqild »

m-p-3 wrote: post #15

This isn't a new thing at all, but more awareness to the sysadmins shouldn't hurt. Also, let me point you to the Legacy Browser Support extension. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/legacy-browser-sup... With proper GPOs you can force a domain/subdomain to open in IE directly from any links.

For Firefox there is (was?) IETab which lets you open websites in IE tabs inside Firefox. I think there was even an option to specify that certain websites (e.g. the Intranet, certain banks) should always open in IETab.

Haven't used it for years but back when I was a Windows sysadmin it was the final proof that FF was better than IE: in addition to being Firefox it could also be IE : )

Re: Chrome browser for businesses

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Post by frik »

BinaryIdiot wrote: post #23
krzyk wrote: post #18

Is this about replacing one monopoly with another? It is slowly starting too look like in the early 00's, most developers are starting to support only chrome, with no testing in Firefox or latest IE. On Android it is even worse, no one is testing with Firefox Mobile (Fennec) - this is WinXP-IE6 all over again.

I completely agree. It's re-enforced with Chrome's supplied dev tools which are really, really nice (I always found them far better than Firefox's built-in or Firebug). It's going to be harder to unseat Chrome. IE 6 wasn't so difficult due to an increase in competition who offered features that IE wasn't even working on (standards, tabs, etc). How would you even unseat Chrome?

Safari and nowadays Chrome DevTools are great.

I miss the "DOM" tab, that Firebug for Firefox had features had, and I haven't found anywhere else. You can browse the DOM tree state and edit - similar to Smalltalk and Windows Registry - very useful & powerful. Sadly, they just killed Firebug, broke the addon, deactivated it with an update and replaced it with a still not feature-complete (at the moment sub-par) solution.

Re: Chrome browser for businesses

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Post by reitanqild »

For me Chrome is already the new IE: good enough to saturate the market to the point where devs stops caring about standards compliance.

Personally I have tried to like it, multiple times but I always get annoyed and go back to FF. But then again I prefer Linux over Mac and Netbeans over IntelliJ so maybe it's just me.

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