You don't learn Bootstrap. You learn CSS and HTML and you just use Bootstrap.
Ask HN: Should I learn Bootstrap 3 or 4 at this moment?
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Re: Ask HN: Should I learn Bootstrap 3 or 4 at this moment?
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know if it's just you, but if I had to do that I would take about 10 times a long as I take right now to build something. It's much easier to memorize them in my opinion.
What things do you actual memorize? All structures code and classes and JS methods & events?
Yup. All of that, so that I can code a component from scratch without looking at the docs.
It also comes from practice, if you use Bootstrap often you'll just memorize the components after a while.
Re: Ask HN: Should I learn Bootstrap 3 or 4 at this moment?
#73I am in Production with 4. No problem.
Re: Ask HN: Should I learn Bootstrap 3 or 4 at this moment?
#74Ditch both. Learn CSS fundamentals and for a good framework, head for Semantic UI
Re: Ask HN: Should I learn Bootstrap 3 or 4 at this moment?
#75Learn html and css by using tachyons. tachyons.io
Re: Ask HN: Should I learn Bootstrap 3 or 4 at this moment?
#76Learning Bootstrap 3 or 4 should take you very little time, I would suggest you don't learn either of them, but instead take the time to learn CSS (I am of course assuming you are not already a CSS wiz). You can look at the source of Bootstrap to see how they accomplished certain things if you'd like, but if you're doing anything more than prototyping (and even then), I feel there is very little benefit to using Boot…
As a backend dev, I wish somebody had told me this exact advice earlier on in my career. CSS does have a fair amount of silly legacy shit, but it's really not all that bad once you dive in. Another good project's source code to learn from is Skeleton. (more simple than bootstrap) CSS version: https://github.com/dhg/Skeleton Sass version: https://github.com/WhatsNewSaes/Skeleton-Sass Edit: For more of a tutorial appro…
I use skeleton for all my projects. It's light, highly customizable, and a breeze to use.
Re: Ask HN: Should I learn Bootstrap 3 or 4 at this moment?
#77I can't help but ask a bigger picture question: "What are you trying to do or what is your end goal"?
If you are trying to roll out some new software for a startup or project and you want it to look good and semi unique then I recommend just buying a theme with all the necessary components (dashboard, graphs, whatever) you need. Themes are pretty cheap these days. Usually one of these themes has picked some sort of "foundation" library and you can then learn that.
Basically force yourself to pick by necessity and not what the "future" should be...
Re: Ask HN: Should I learn Bootstrap 3 or 4 at this moment?
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, people are saying, "No, learn CSS!" but isn't CSS exceedingly simple? Why can't I just use Bootstrap because I don't feel like designing an app, and Bootstrap is the fastest way to get a consistent layout on web and mobile? What's it got to do with learning at all?
> "No, learn CSS!" but isn't CSS exceedingly simple? No, it's not. I don't want to start a CSS flame war, but at least for layout / positioning I struggle every single time with CSS, especially on sites with dynamic content. CSS is my least favorite part of the web development stack by far.
Why not to use Flexbox then? http://caniuse.com/#feat=flexbox
Re: Ask HN: Should I learn Bootstrap 3 or 4 at this moment?
#79Learning Bootstrap 3 or 4 should take you very little time, I would suggest you don't learn either of them, but instead take the time to learn CSS (I am of course assuming you are not already a CSS wiz). You can look at the source of Bootstrap to see how they accomplished certain things if you'd like, but if you're doing anything more than prototyping (and even then), I feel there is very little benefit to using Boot…
I don't think he's asking whether he should learn CSS or Bootstrap, just what version of Bootstrap he should learn.
Yeah, but I think it's pretty safe to assume that if you are asking _that_ question is because you probably need to learn CSS first...
I know CSS pretty well and Bootstrap versions are no longer an important concern to me (I can pick up either just by looking at the docs).
Re: Ask HN: Should I learn Bootstrap 3 or 4 at this moment?
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think he's asking whether he should learn CSS or Bootstrap, just what version of Bootstrap he should learn.
Yeah, but I think it's pretty safe to assume that if you are asking _that_ question is because you probably need to learn CSS first... I know CSS pretty well and Bootstrap versions are no longer an important concern to me (I can pick up either just by looking at the docs).
I don't know why you would think that, honestly.
He's basically asking if Bootstrap 4 is ready to be used. Nothing to do with knowing CSS.