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Re: IQ is only a minor factor in success

#101
post #72

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>In 2004, we had 59% of the Forbes 400 having made their own fortune, as opposed to 41% who inherited it. Quote from your own source...

The article explains that they rank the level of "self-made-ness" out of 10, with 10 being from a poor family with no advantages. Then it says " A total of 34 billionaires, or 8.5%, scored as 10s".

So given 10 possible rankings, it is pretty well distributed then?

Re: IQ is only a minor factor in success

#102
What the Americans call iq tests are just tests of how much American university culture you know, they don't measure intelligence. That's a fact that can't be argued against.

Sure usually that equates to intelligence. However iq tests do not, measure intelligence.

Re: IQ is only a minor factor in success

#103
post #55
post #25

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I see money as freedom. My ultimate goal is to save enough so that I don't have to work. Eventually, that will be the case, hopefully not on my deathbed. If the majority of the population thought that way, we'd have an economic collapse though, so forget what I said.

But I enjoy work. I'm happy that I'm well compensated for the work I do, but even without that I fundamentally enjoy my work. In fact work is preferable to how I spend a lot of my free time. Would I like to work more flexible hours and get paid the same to work 30 hours instead of 37.5 a week then sure, but otherwise what would money be buying freedom from? I suppose owning a house out-right would be freedom from wor…

Holding cash on purpose is a pretty terrible idea in just about every political environment. Nobody who's rich actually does this, unless is specifically earmarked for an upcoming purchase or an emergency fund. You're better off with stocks and metals.

Re: IQ is only a minor factor in success

#105

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I wanted kids. I believe your statement is still correct. In my case I subjected myself to prison because of biology ruling over my logical processing unit. Humanity goes on as a result of that, I am quite sure of it. :)

I get that, but my friends are starting to have kids and I'm rather looking forward to being their crazy uncle and teaching them how to solder and take things apart etc. I love kids, I just don't want to be the one primarily responsible for them

I don't really know about your situation and if you are actually doing it now. But based on experience, people who get married usually dismiss friendship with singles and instead look for friendships with people who have families/kids.

Re: IQ is only a minor factor in success

#106

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I'm not single, but you're right about the kids. In my world view having a kid is similar to an 18 year prison sentence.

Kids are great. I have 3 kids and to me it is nothing like a prison sentence. I love watching them grow up, it is taking me back to the happiness and carelessness of my own childhood every day. It also gives me a sense of purpose that I would have never found without kids and what I gave up in freedom is made up in love, affection and just plain fun. Based on my experience I am 100% convinced that people that can't f…

Dude. Just because someone is adamantly against having children themselves doesn't mean that they "can't find joy in the happiness of others." My wife and I decided to not have kids. I don't know that I would equate it to "an 18 year prison sentence" but...I wouldn't not call it that. I love all my little nieces and nephews; they're one of the best parts of my life. I also thank the noodly appendages of the Flying Spaghetti Monster every time I'm with them for more than an hour my wife and I made the choice we did.

Re: IQ is only a minor factor in success

#107
post #23

A truly smart person will have a very impressive, convincing answer to this question.

Having a rich daddy is probably the largest influence in someone's chances of being rich themselves, at least in the US.

http://philip.greenspun.com/bg/

Re: IQ is only a minor factor in success

#108

Interesting. I'm a 1%er and I have a piece of paper that says I'm pretty smart, but: > a personality trait marked by > diligence, perseverance and > self-discipline I see myself as pretty lazy, impulsive, and slap-dash, and tend to use my brain to brute-force lazy solutions to problems. I am too lazy and don't have the concentration span to pay attention much in meetings, but can generally utter something profound ne…

It is possible for you to overcome your laziness and impulsiveness and direct your attention toward things that help your long-term goals. There are a lot of little pieces to doing this. One of them that I'm doing right now is reading "The Willpower Instinct" and trying out the stuff in it. If you want a more expensive, harder to ignore way to do this, you could try going to a CFAR camp.

I'm not affiliated with CFAR or anything, this is an option I am seriously considering though.

Re: IQ is only a minor factor in success

#109
post #41

Getting rich, at least under our current system, has a lot more to do with luck (mainly being in the right place at the right time) than it does with being smart or even working hard. The reason perseverance (which is related to working hard, but is not quite the same thing) helps is that the more willing you are to keep playing the game without winning the more likely you are to eventually win. (You can see this dyn…

Sounds a bit like,

http://www.shenlanguage.org/lambdassociates/htdocs/blog/bipo...

I can add that academia is generally equally part of the same order. The game gets quite annoying after a while, since you realize one is basically doing the same x + delta thing and calling it the next great coming.

Re: IQ is only a minor factor in success

#110
Most of the cash-rich people i know are not smart at all. They are just conservative and can withhold themselves from impulse spending, and introverts, so they don't need to spend much to hang out with friends, which allowed them to build decent savings and build passive income (mostly by buying residential and commercial property, while that will be different in developed countries).

Most income-rich on the other hand, are smart.

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