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Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Lio wrote: post #393
nicky0 wrote: post #226

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$400 for dongles? Got a breakdown on that?

Not the original poster but I'll have a go... 1. OWC Thunderbolt 3 dock so I can connect my existing monitor and wired network (not yet available): $279. 2. Replacement for my USB-A Superdrive: $39.99 3. Thunderbolt 3 hdmi media kit for presentations: $49 4. USB-C SD card reader: $29 5. USB-C to Lightning cable: $20 6. USB-C to USB-A dongle so I can connect my ANT+ dongle: $9 7. Power supply extension cable (you don'…

Good list, although replacing all your USB-A peripherals can be avoided with a C->A adapter or two.

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Post by Aaargh20318 »

tossedaway334 wrote: post #436
Aaargh20318 wrote: post #419

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It's not about wether it can run Windows or Linux. It's about wether it can run PC-DOS 1.0 and applications written for it.

modern non-apple x86 uefi systems cannot run PC-DOS 1.0 or the applications written for it either.

Don't Non-Apple UEFI systems usually include a BIOS-emulation mode ?

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Post by ClassyJacket »

quantumwannabe wrote: post #463
ClassyJacket wrote: post #435

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Huh? The Apple Watch is a fantastic execution. The Taptic engine is one of the coolest and most useful pieces of technology I've seen in years.

I found Android Wear to be superior to it. Some gripes I've had: read notifications aren't synced with the phone, it is impossible to mark an email as read without opening it, no third-party watch faces, the appointment shown on the watch face won't change to the next one until the current one is over (horrible with back to back appointments, Android shows the next one 10 minutes into the current one), the iMessage a…

Are you sure you've actually used an Apple Watch?

Notifications are synced.

You can see your next appointment by scrolling the crown.

Battery life is better, not worse.

The app launching thing is annoying though, but I rarely use third party apps on either.

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Post by 72deluxe »

utexaspunk wrote: post #470
72deluxe wrote: post #274

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I would love to use Windows all the time at home but as my Windows 10 installation believes it is up to date (but is clearly an old build number, irritatingly/stupidly only visible in the settings app and not my computer > Properties), it really is not up to date and I have no idea when Microsoft will decide that it is. It's rubbish. And the lack of consistency throughout the OS (icons different everywhere, duplicati…

I still say Windows 7 is the best OS they've put out. The whole Metro UI is a disaster.

You don't really get the Metro UI as a start menu in Windows 10, although the metro apps forced on you are irritating. E.g. Calculator now has a pointless splash screen, delaying your use of it.

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Post by DoofusOfDeath »

tajen wrote: post #319

So many questions here. I'm sure Blackberry's CEO once said "Blackberry is not dead" – when the CEO worries about it, it means there's huge worries about it throughout the company. Were macOS leaders leaving in mass or something? Also, there's not a single fact in Tim Cook's statement. It's not "We're investing in X or Y". It's not "Stay for 6 months and you'll be so stunned with our next release". It's not "We're pl…

> Next thing you know, Apple removes the Control key.

I'm pretty sure Apple would never give up Control.

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Post by dkonofalski »

ux-app wrote: post #298
72deluxe wrote: post #274

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I would love to use Windows all the time at home but as my Windows 10 installation believes it is up to date (but is clearly an old build number, irritatingly/stupidly only visible in the settings app and not my computer > Properties), it really is not up to date and I have no idea when Microsoft will decide that it is. It's rubbish. And the lack of consistency throughout the OS (icons different everywhere, duplicati…

Yeah the design issues really get to me too. I'm a Windows guy through and through. I've been on Windows since 3.11. I'm not moving to any other OS, but wow is the design fucking horrible. With MS's budget, how bloody hard could it be to actually get a design grad to unify the design? It's seriously 2 months of work for a handful of people. It drives me up the wall.

If you think that it's 2 months of work and can be done by a design grad, you're crazy.

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Post by dkonofalski »

WWLink wrote: post #209
pdimitar wrote: post #84

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Agreed, I have the exact same feeling for this case as well. "We have so many amazing things in store that I am so excited about" Actions speak louder than words. The new MBPs are the most meh Apple laptops ever. The iPhone 7/Plus are the laziest iPhones ever made, too. Rehashes losing legacy ports and trying to impose new ones (although USB Type-C is the best decision they've made in the last several years; I think…

Only answering this because of the ecosystem comment. I wish manufacturers would make products that work well with anything. Like Apple watches with Android phones and vice versa, Apple TV running Amazon's Prime TV app, Amazon's Prime TV box running Apple's TV app, etc. All of these ecosystem-exclusive things are annoying and in some ways I believe holding technology back a little.

I don't mean to offend you, but that's such a naive comment. Look at how many problems Windows has with all the hardware that it needs to support. The entire reason you get ecosystem-exclusive things is because it's nearly impossible to make things cross-compatible to such a degree that it doesn't turn into a giant game of finger-pointing.

If your Apple Watch series 4 doesn't work with your Nexus 20 phone, whose fault is it? Who needs to fix it? It might be holding technology back a little but until we get away from capitalism and there's a financial risk/reward system to making sure everything works and nothing is shared, we'll have to deal with this exclusivity.

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Post by dkonofalski »

MagnumOpus wrote: post #232
WWLink wrote: post #209

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Only answering this because of the ecosystem comment. I wish manufacturers would make products that work well with anything. Like Apple watches with Android phones and vice versa, Apple TV running Amazon's Prime TV app, Amazon's Prime TV box running Apple's TV app, etc. All of these ecosystem-exclusive things are annoying and in some ways I believe holding technology back a little.

We all wish that and they are not just holding back things "a little" but by massive amounts. But alas companies are usually not in it to advance technology, but to make shedloads of money. Lock-in, incompatible ports, moats are all by design to reduce customer attrition from inferior products by some margin. Peter Thiel's "From 0 to 1" opened my mind to this. SV VCs also don't care about your tech too much - but the…

While lock-in might be a motivating factor and benefit, it's also just that it's really hard to make something that works with a competitor's something-else without your competitor sharing all their details. It's much easier for a company to guarantee the experience of the end-user when they only have to worry about things they have control over. You can't just make that kind of simplification as if it's proven fact.

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Post by dkonofalski »

canuckintime wrote: post #266
comex wrote: post #130

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No offense, but this is like one of those false stories in politics that keeps spreading no matter what the fact checkers say. I've seen that quote posted on HN like five times now. It doesn't mean what you think it means. Tim Cook isn't actually so undisciplined that he would call an entire product line of his company useless in an interview. In Apple's world, "PC" means Windows PC; the Mac is not a "PC". As Gruber…

And I've seen that DaringFireball 'rebuttal' posted a couple of times even though it's false "No Gruber is just plain wrong. I thought I remembered Cook using "PC" to mean Mac and WinPC, and, after a little Googling, found I was right" [1] [1] https://myfreakinname.blogspot.com/2016/11/john-hodgman-is-n...

That looks like the manifesto of someone that's gone completely crazy.

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Post by dkonofalski »

deanCommie wrote: post #418
wildmusings wrote: post #400

Personally, luxury laptop lines don't make sense for me at this point. There was a time when it was the only way to get decent hardware, but those days are long gone. Four years ago I spilled water on my 2009 17" MBP (RIP) and Apple wanted $1200 for the repair. Instead, I spent ~$1300, including three-year accident-protection insurance where they show up at your house THE NEXT DAY, on a Thinkpad T530 and I couldn't b…

I used to think every one of my friends with a MBP was a fisher price-loving brainless slave to Steve Jobs. Then I actually had to use one for work. I'll never go back. It's the little things that are not so little: 1) The wake speed 2) The battery life 3) The overall comfort and feel of the keys and the trackpad compared to ANYTHING I've ever used before from Lenovo or Dell. I can live in Mac mode and build almost a…

This was me too and it's so funny to see people saying the same things as I did - "You can get the same specs for so much cheaper!", "You're wasting your money!", "You can't game on a Mac". Now I have the best of both worlds. My Mac gets used for everything and my PC is my gaming machine when I can't game on the Mac. It's not the same specs unless specs only include the processor, RAM, and HDD and the experience is light years better to me.

I'm glad people have a choice. I just don't understand why I get crucified every time I state my preference.

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