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Wow, hundreds of developers and 7 newsletters!1!! has Netcraft already confirmed that Vim is obsolete?
Neovim: https://github.com/neovim/neovim/pulse/monthly
Vim: https://github.com/vim/vim/pulse/monthly
I don't know why people feel emotional about Vim. Neovim is just Vim with a breath of fresh air.
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> but I somehow always prefer a software, where you do things intuitively without needing to first learn a shortcut for everything. As the quote goes, "The only "intuitive" interface is the nipple. After that it's all learned." The word you're looking for is "different". Vim (and Emacs) have different shortcuts than what you're used to from Windows. That's because they're much older . Vi and Emacs actually predate th…
> "The only "intuitive" interface is the nipple. After that it's all learned." I did not know this saying, thanks. This explains why I cannot work on a GUI without a track point!
I don't know if I am too old or just think differently than vim enthusiasts, but I somehow couldn't bring myself to like vim. Of course that's might be since I can't find motivation to dig into it further. As a developer I use it almost daily when doing something on the server, like editing some config etc., but I somehow always prefer a software, where you do things intuitively without needing to first learn a short…
> but I somehow always prefer a software, where you do things intuitively without needing to first learn a shortcut for everything. As the quote goes, "The only "intuitive" interface is the nipple. After that it's all learned." The word you're looking for is "different". Vim (and Emacs) have different shortcuts than what you're used to from Windows. That's because they're much older . Vi and Emacs actually predate th…
But many babies have trouble latching and the mother and baby need some assistance with the first few feeds - i.e. even nipples aren't totally intuitive.
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You must be living in a bubble tbh. I am using vim for 12+ years now and it is perfectly fine.
Vim is fine but Neovim is better and judging from the community involvement, will keep getting better at a much faster rate than Vim.
Would vim 8 have async if neovim did not exist? No, because it was fine without it.
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What? I've seen tarruda and co. explicitly express gratitude and thanks to Bram.
By critiquing his reluctance to accept patches because he'll be stuck maintaining that code? By forking Vim and removing some compatibility and legacy support features when tarruda's multithreading patch was not accepted? No, the core contributors have not been outright in their criticisms, but IMO the fork itself shows a lack of respect for Bran's work and a lack of willingness to work with him to make Vim better. A…
vim7 was a great improvement, and when I show people the time travel capabilities it blows their minds. But that was a long time ago. With the number of people to whom vim is very important, I'm surprised there isn't more results coming out of it.
Though maybe it is mostly that the core doesn't need to change and innovation can happen in the plugins? That is certainly true to some extent, but the async stuff was way overdue.
> Bram admitted to using other editors on rare occasions, and said he always misses the dot (.) command, which repeats a change several times in different positions, and the ability to record and replay a sequence of commands. > “Just a simple ‘change this text into that text’ can be very laborious without a repeat command,” he said. “I haven’t seen another editor that provides this feature.” Note that emacs has had…
Have you used vim? . is much closer to running a keyboard macro than it is to C-x z - only you don't have to record anything ahead of time, nor necessarily even realise until afterwards that you might want to reuse what you've just done. There's no precise equivalent in emacs. It's described here: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Repeat_last_change C-x z is lame by comparison. Like, suppose you just typed in M-d h e l l o,…
Wow, hundreds of developers and 7 newsletters!1!! has Netcraft already confirmed that Vim is obsolete?
Just past month and that too after Neovim lit a fire under Vim. The difference would be much bigger if you check for a period of last 2 years or so. Neovim: https://github.com/neovim/neovim/pulse/monthly Vim: https://github.com/vim/vim/pulse/monthly I don't know why people feel emotional about Vim. Neovim is just Vim with a breath of fresh air.
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Neovim is Vim for me and many other users. Vim is irrelevant to me now. The community is rallying behind Neovim and it shows great potential. It just needs to be bundled by major distros so it can be installed on servers with 1 command and that'll be the end of old Vim. Bram has done a tremendous job with Vim but it's time to move on to the Vim of the future.
From a Windows user point of view neovim is strictly than vim 8 / gvim 8.
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Neovim is Vim for me and many other users. Vim is irrelevant to me now. The community is rallying behind Neovim and it shows great potential. It just needs to be bundled by major distros so it can be installed on servers with 1 command and that'll be the end of old Vim. Bram has done a tremendous job with Vim but it's time to move on to the Vim of the future.
Why would it be the end of old vim? I've never used neovim and I don't plan to use it, vim is perfectly fine for me, as it is. I guess, most of vim users don't even know of neovim. Sure, it's good to have a choice.
The main advantage on the other hand is that my friend stopped bothering me about having to switch to neovim, which I guess is a non-issue for most. Now he's trying to get me on to zsh.