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Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing Vim, How He Uses It, and Version 8

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Re: Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing Vim, How He Uses It, and Version 8

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No, this is just a clickbait article.

I found the article on vim.org:

> Nice article about Vim on hostingadvice.com

> Releasing version 8.0 and getting close to the 25th birthday inspired the writing of this article. It contains links to relevant info and can be used to convince a friend to start using Vim. (Bram Moolenaar)

Re: Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing Vim, How He Uses It, and Version 8

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Has Bram Moolenaar ever publicly acknowledged the influence of Neovim on Vim 8? At the very least, Neovim provided the market research to show that async was worth doing.

Neovim is Vim for me and many other users. Vim is irrelevant to me now. The community is rallying behind Neovim and it shows great potential. It just needs to be bundled by major distros so it can be installed on servers with 1 command and that'll be the end of old Vim. Bram has done a tremendous job with Vim but it's time to move on to the Vim of the future.

I've never touched neovim as I'm perfectly happy with vim - what reasons are there for me to consider making the switch?

I would guess neovim isn't even on the radar of most vim users. I don't see neovim surpassing vim any time soon, personally.

Re: Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing Vim, How He Uses It, and Version 8

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post #3

Has Bram Moolenaar ever publicly acknowledged the influence of Neovim on Vim 8? At the very least, Neovim provided the market research to show that async was worth doing.

Neovim is Vim for me and many other users. Vim is irrelevant to me now. The community is rallying behind Neovim and it shows great potential. It just needs to be bundled by major distros so it can be installed on servers with 1 command and that'll be the end of old Vim. Bram has done a tremendous job with Vim but it's time to move on to the Vim of the future.

vim is great, but neovim is better. Of course these days I'm a spacemacs proselyte. On my dev box spacemacs and neovim is used interchangeably. On most servers I just stick with the default distro vim, unless it becomes a remote dev machine.

Point is I use all three all the time, and I fully expect to continue doing that until world hunger or me ends.

Re: Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing Vim, How He Uses It, and Version 8

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post #3

Has Bram Moolenaar ever publicly acknowledged the influence of Neovim on Vim 8? At the very least, Neovim provided the market research to show that async was worth doing.

Yes, http://www.binpress.com/blog/2014/11/19/vim-creator-bram-moo....

Re: Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing Vim, How He Uses It, and Version 8

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Neovim is Vim for me and many other users. Vim is irrelevant to me now. The community is rallying behind Neovim and it shows great potential. It just needs to be bundled by major distros so it can be installed on servers with 1 command and that'll be the end of old Vim. Bram has done a tremendous job with Vim but it's time to move on to the Vim of the future.

I've never touched neovim as I'm perfectly happy with vim - what reasons are there for me to consider making the switch? I would guess neovim isn't even on the radar of most vim users. I don't see neovim surpassing vim any time soon, personally.

Neovim's popularity is more with extension developers. My understanding is that it enables them to develop features rivaling those in IDEs. Vim users won't switch for Neovim itself, but they might if extension writers only target Neovim.

I think Neovim also has a pluggable engine, so IDE vim emulators can simply include that portion rather than implementing the functionality per platform.

Re: Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing Vim, How He Uses It, and Version 8

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> Bram admitted to using other editors on rare occasions, and said he always misses the dot (.) command, which repeats a change several times in different positions, and the ability to record and replay a sequence of commands.

> “Just a simple ‘change this text into that text’ can be very laborious without a repeat command,” he said. “I haven’t seen another editor that provides this feature.”

Note that emacs has had the repeat command since version 20.3, released 19 August 1998[2]. I suppose that means he's not used it since then …

[1] https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_mono/efaq.htm...

[2] https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsReleaseDates

Re: Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing Vim, How He Uses It, and Version 8

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post #3

Has Bram Moolenaar ever publicly acknowledged the influence of Neovim on Vim 8? At the very least, Neovim provided the market research to show that async was worth doing.

Neovim is Vim for me and many other users. Vim is irrelevant to me now. The community is rallying behind Neovim and it shows great potential. It just needs to be bundled by major distros so it can be installed on servers with 1 command and that'll be the end of old Vim. Bram has done a tremendous job with Vim but it's time to move on to the Vim of the future.

You must be living in a bubble tbh. I am using vim for 12+ years now and it is perfectly fine.

Re: Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing Vim, How He Uses It, and Version 8

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So, what does he think about Emacs?

There is an answer in the video at 1:06:11. "In some way it's actually nice to have competitor [he is speaking about Neovim] and Emacs has disappeared, so.. [I think, he smiles at this point]".
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