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Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by wruza »

mcv wrote: post #317
wineisfine wrote: post #184

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Had the same thing. Turns out, I'm more of a design snob then I thought I was. Trying to move away from macOS and trying out Windows and a few Linux distro's, my god it's all ugly. I don't care much about Apple hardware specifically, but they got my hooked because of the OS. Pretty lame.

You'd think it wouldn't be that hard to make a prettier UI, but apparently it is.

Original windows interface is pretty usable.

What makes it worse is that they change, regroup and rename things each f-ing year. W7 made it hard to select apps (floating groups in taskbar), explorer introduced dumb libraries, control panel is always a mess, as is /Users/Shared (iirc) thing. Now that w10. I try it and understand that I'm unable to do anything again and again.

Biggest questionable change in macos for 6 years was new ui flavor and maximize button became fullscreen. That said, iTunes also experiments too much.

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by scholia »

enjo wrote: post #17

The latest rev pushed me to a PC for the first time in like 15 years. It's partly because I didn't love the new Macbook Pro, but also cause hey..change is fun sometimes. I'm very happy with my new Surface Book. I never thought I'd like the touchscreen as much as I do. I LOVE being able to go to tablet mode for calls and stuff where I sort of want to just wander around. The pen has completely changed how I do flow-cha…

> The touchpad is really the only thing that I think compares poorly.

Which is why Surface Pro owners often turn to these: https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msuk/en_GB/pdp/productI...

> I'm sure I'll be back on a Macbook someday (cause hey, change is fun) but no regrets right now.

After a few years with Surface touch and pen, going back to a Mac is like having a limb removed....

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Post by toothbrush »

izacus wrote: post #324
toothbrush wrote: post #301

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I'm curious about that keyboard, because i'm considering getting a Thinkpad T420 or T460, but the T460 keyboard looks like one of those horrible mushy and wholly unacceptable laptop keyboards to me, whereas the T420 at least seems reminiscent of the old revered Thinkpad keyboards. Can you comment?

Hmm, I have the new 2016 MBP, 2014 MBP and T460s and the keyboard on T460s beats the other two by a significant margin. I don't think it has the same feel of the older thinkpads, but it still gives a very clear feedback and give in comparison to even the 2014 MacBook one. The 2016 MacBook keyboard is just downright horrible. You kinda get used to it but returning to others keeps reminding me that it's just worse in e…

After researching a bit more i might end up getting the T420. Solid keyboard, and with an i5 and a fancy SSD it'll be fine for my needs (plus a cd-bay battery, yay!). Blazing even, considering that i'm still on a C2D as my daily driver. Frustratingly my first-gen unibody (2008?) MacBook with Arch Linux just won't die, which would give me an excuse to drop a few hundred on a 2nd-hand Thinkpad.

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by mateuszf »

j7ake wrote: post #313
bosie wrote: post #251

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how do you get vim keybinds in every app?

Also curious!

I guess he's picking the apps that support that - probably web browser via extension, and cli apps which often do that.

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by Brakenshire »

lisper wrote: post #26

What I really want is for my state (SSD, RAM, maybe the CPU, but probably not the GPU) to be easily detachable from my human interface devices (keyboard, mouse, display). I want to be able to use a desktop in one place, then unplug a small unit which contains the aforementioned state (i.e. the equivalent of a sleeping laptop but with no keyboard or display), carry that someplace else, plug it in to a different set of…

Surprised no-one's mentioned EOMA68:

https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop

It's an open hardware standard for switching the computer between different interface devices.

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by yoz-y »

my123 wrote: post #334
72deluxe wrote: post #291

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Yep that's the problem I am faced with too. My work PC is also on Windows 10 but not on the anniversary update, so I have no idea what wonderful new delights everyone is partying about. How can I be sure I am running a secure up to date system if the "am I up to date check" essentially lies to me?

The older Windows 10 releases still get monthly security updates... You can force an upgrade via the Media Creation Tool.

What is so special about the anniversary update that I would have to do that though? Colleagues with the exact same hardware did get the update, is it some sinister A/B testing?

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by anjc »

dijit wrote: post #221
Animats wrote: post #196

Uh oh. That's the sort of thing CEOs say just before they kill the product line.

I was working for Nokia in Finland when Stephen Elop came along to quell fears that he was shutting down Maemo/Meego R&D. He was just as vague as Tim Cook is being and there is certainly an air of nostalgia when reading this. I don't believe this bodes well for the product line at all.

What was the internal perception of Elop as CEO at the time? And of the push towards Windows Mobile? Did people see the writing on the wall or did everyone see promise?

I still remember seeing the promo videos for the...920 I think it was, and being utterly blown away. The promos were so good that whole communities dedicated themselves to proving that they were fake.

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by pvdebbe »

JoachimS wrote: post #222
pvdebbe wrote: post #175

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So if the Macbook 2018 suddenly uses intel 80386, slow FP operations are also Intel's fault?

No. Apple decided between adding more, but more power hungry memories and battery life. 16 GByte memory was deemed ok for most of all users and battery life became more important. Design within the limitations and handling market requirements in short.

In any event, it possibly cannot be Intel's fault if Apple makes the hardware decision.

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Post by colomon »

m12k wrote: post #316

It's actually kind of amazing to see the discourse shift against Apple and the new MacBook Pro to the point where it seems almost self-reinforcing. Like someone turned the reality distortion field on backwards or something. I've been wanting a mac laptop the size and weight of a MacBook Air 13" but with a retina display for years, and the ability to connect usb, power and external display with just a single cable is…

It feels to me like you are putting this backwards. I've been using the MBP as my main software development platform for eight years now. My current machine is a maxed out mid 2014 15" MBPr. What does the new MBP offer me over that?

1) Very slightly faster. (2.9 vs 2.8) 2) 2 TB SSD instead of 1 TB. 3) Ability to charge and drive monitor over single cable.

But what is the price?

1) $4,199 -- nearly $1000 more expensive than the last one. 2) Complete inability to plug in any peripheral I already own without a dongle. 3) No physical ESC key.

It's only $150 more if I stick with a 1TB SSD. But if I do that, literally the only significant benefit I get from the new machine is the ability to drive monitor and charge over a single cable -- and of course, I've got to replace my existing (expensive, beautiful) monitor to do that.

Plus as an added bonus, they're discontinuing the Time Capsule, which has been my main local backup solution for years.

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by scholia »

20andup wrote: post #207
_Codemonkeyism wrote: post #187

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Same here, switched to a Dell XPS13 after 15 years of macs (Still use an iMac at work). Dell quality has been very bad though, I'm not amused. Linux bash on Windows also helped me a lot to transition development work to Windows.

I just bought an xps 15 running arch linux to replace my mba 13. The build quality is poorer for sure. My main complains. Keyboard: - Cheap plastic that doesn't feel nice to type for long hours - Oh I miss the mac keyboard layout, the control and alt keys on are hard to adjust on windows and linux especially when copy and paste puts your fingers in awkward positions Touchpad: - Good, but still a ways to go compared t…

> I just bought an xps 15 running arch linux to replace my mba 13. The build quality is poorer for sure.

and

> Or I can pay almost triple the price for a macbook pro for the same specs and even slower vm on top.

;-)

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