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Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by fiatpandas »

suprgeek wrote: post #152

I think this "assurance" pretty much confirms for me that Apple has internally begun to shift even more resources away from the Mac and the Macbook. The very weak nature of the response which really does not provide any specifics what-so-ever is very typical when the underlying reality matches the rumor but the guy in charge just can't say it yet. Tim Cook is Apple's Ballamer - An ops. guy, great for the bottom line…

The response is weak and uninformative because it's posted on an internal message board, which might as well be a public Reddit thread as far as an exec is concerned. Did you expect him to post a picture of Jony Ive posing in front of 25 iMac ID prototypes? If he says anything else he's said too much.

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by toyg »

JoachimS wrote: post #222
pvdebbe wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So if the Macbook 2018 suddenly uses intel 80386, slow FP operations are also Intel's fault?

No. Apple decided between adding more, but more power hungry memories and battery life. 16 GByte memory was deemed ok for most of all users and battery life became more important. Design within the limitations and handling market requirements in short.

No, they chose between performance and thinness. Battery life would have been fine with a battery the size they used before.

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by glaberficken »

lobster_johnson wrote: post #141
enjo wrote: post #17

The latest rev pushed me to a PC for the first time in like 15 years. It's partly because I didn't love the new Macbook Pro, but also cause hey..change is fun sometimes. I'm very happy with my new Surface Book. I never thought I'd like the touchscreen as much as I do. I LOVE being able to go to tablet mode for calls and stuff where I sort of want to just wander around. The pen has completely changed how I do flow-cha…

I'm also considering a switch, but Windows drives me up the wall whenever I touch it. macOS has been getting uglier and more awkward to use the last few years, but Windows is still the king of ugly. So I've been considering Linux as my first option. I fired up a few VMs and dipped my toes in various Linux desktop environments: Elementary, Fedora 25, and Ubuntu (Unity) so far. These are all GNOME 3 variants. And... oh…

> "Meanwhile, there's little consistency between apps (and Elementary tries to remove menu bars as a concept, what's up with that?), and everything feels put together randomly by people with widely divergent ideas of what a kind of desktop environment to aspire to."

This is the product of dictatorship style development on one side (Windows, OSX) Vs democracy on the other side (Linux distros).

Democracy implies diversity. Dictatorship implies uniformity.

Can you have the uniformity you are looking for within a democracy?

(or some would argue that anarchy would be a better metaphor for the Linux scene)

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by toyg »

mikesickler wrote: post #56
dba7dba wrote: post #5

I wish Apple never had their success with iTunes and iPhone. It was like winning lottery for them. And you know what happens when someone wins lottery. They forget about their roots and in the end, only ruin remains.

Which roots? The System 8 and 9 days, when my Mac would freeze on me every day? Throughout its history, Apple has had its ups and downs when it comes to quality on the desktop. There have been high points (System 7, OS 10.4 or so?) and low points, just as Microsoft have had their Windows 2000 and (shudder) Windows Me. There are no "roots", there are only local minima and maxima.

Wtf, Win 2000 was boss. It took the desktop in the XXI century with the NT kernel. Sure, it had some security issues, but it was the best desktop ever at the time, and a real revolution.

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by lostlogin »

mozumder wrote: post #54
lisper wrote: post #26

What I really want is for my state (SSD, RAM, maybe the CPU, but probably not the GPU) to be easily detachable from my human interface devices (keyboard, mouse, display). I want to be able to use a desktop in one place, then unplug a small unit which contains the aforementioned state (i.e. the equivalent of a sleeping laptop but with no keyboard or display), carry that someplace else, plug it in to a different set of…

Apple currently already does this very well via their iCloud sync. You stick 1TB of your files in your Documents directory (or app-specific data folders..), and you can access them in any device that supports iCloud, including iPhones & iPads. Try it, you'll like it, and you don't have to deal with physical storage devices. I mean, have people never even tried iCloud sync?

I haven't. After using iCloud for my photos it's going to be an awfully long time before I trust any Apple cloud service. It's was shambolic and is still deeply dysfunctional.

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by sumedh »

zdean wrote: post #19
chrischen wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering 99.99% of silicom valley uses macs as their primary development machines, they've pretty much monopolized the first goal.

Steve Jobs had a very different idea of what changing the world meant and who was doing it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GMQhOm-Dqo

I thought I have seen pretty much every Steve Jobs video but I missed this one. Thanks.

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by jacobolus »

toyg wrote: post #238
Clubber wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they spend a whole lot of energy on the iWatch and it didn't pan out the way they hoped.

That and the iPad Pro were real duds. Good concepts, underwhelming execution ("let's just slap iOS on a big-ass screen, it will do").

The larger size iPad Pro is an amazing drawing tablet, I’m really glad to have one. I’d recommend one to anyone trying to take notes with a pen, make sketches, design anything (from furniture to web apps), work as an illustrator, etc. I find the pen and display to beat anything else available right now, unless you need a very large display.

There’s definitely room for software to catch up for other types of uses, but that’s more a matter of third party developers stepping up. (And the general poor market / software ecosystem on the iPad, with relatively weak sales of pro apps in general.)

Don’t expect it to be a laptop replacement. (I know some people who have had success with this, but for me the uses of iPad and laptop are almost entirely non-overlapping.)

It’s also great for watching video, and I have friends who have enjoyed playing games on one.

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by davidgerard »

m_mueller wrote: post #168
bsg75 wrote: post #155

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This is why I always return to XFCE. It may not be rapidly evolving, but if I'm running a Linux desktop, I want simple.

On what Distro though? What should I try if I want something that pretty much works out of the box i.e. has acceptable battery life + WiFi + Sound + Suspend mode on a Macbook / Latitude / Thinkpad without me having to set up config files according to all kinds of internet sources for a day... or even a week?

Try Xubuntu off a USB stick on your chosen hardware first.

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by cabalamat »

bsg75 wrote: post #155
lobster_johnson wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm also considering a switch, but Windows drives me up the wall whenever I touch it. macOS has been getting uglier and more awkward to use the last few years, but Windows is still the king of ugly. So I've been considering Linux as my first option. I fired up a few VMs and dipped my toes in various Linux desktop environments: Elementary, Fedora 25, and Ubuntu (Unity) so far. These are all GNOME 3 variants. And... oh…

This is why I always return to XFCE. It may not be rapidly evolving, but if I'm running a Linux desktop, I want simple.

> [XFCE] may not be rapidly evolving

Which is why I use it!

Re: Tim Cook assures employees that Apple is committed to the Mac

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Post by Aaargh20318 »

flukus wrote: post #179
lobster_johnson wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How so? The Mac is not a PC.

The mac is a personal computer.

Sure. But it's not a Personal Computer (or compatible).

The term PC does not refer to any computer intended for personal use, it refers to machines compatible with the IBM 5150 Personal Computer.

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