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Microsoft’s Surface Hub is now apparently a billion-dollar business

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Re: Microsoft’s Surface Hub is now apparently a billion-dollar business

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This is much much better and cheaper https://www.acrossio.com

Totally different. That is a web-based chat app. MS is selling a large monitor which has chat, whiteboarding, etc, which doesn't depend on a third-party server to run. If that company goes under a year from now, you have to find another app, retrain everyone to use it, etc. Plus, it doesn't have any hardware, so you still need to set up cameras, microphones, fuss with them if things don't work right, etc. That's what…

If you look closer, it's not a chat app.

It actually records all meetings or meaningful team interactions (video mainly) and it allows people to bookmark the moments and put context. After the end of the meeting, all bookmarks, tasks etc are saved and you can share important points with people that could not be there.

The most amazing thing is that you can mention people with permalinks that get you in the exact time something was said.

Now, can it run on a hardware like Microsoft of whatever? YES

but the innovation is in the concept of LIVING MEETINGS that they live after their end, since people can go in and socially enlive them :)

Re: Microsoft’s Surface Hub is now apparently a billion-dollar business

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Personally I've always found it to be inferior to Hangouts and Facetime.

Maybe, but those can't be deployed on a company's network.

Seems that's a self-inflicted problem by corporate IT.

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Do people not set up the room 15 minutes before the session starts just to sort out those kinds of issues? That way it's only 15 man-minutes rather than 15*n man-minutes. Seems unprofessional.

Sorry but do you actually work in a real life company ? Nobody is coming 15 minutes early to a meeting. That's unheard of in all of the enterprises I've worked. And with there being more and more meetings often you are literally running from one room to another.

I don't work for any large company but MS hit the right spot because people don't seem to want to solve the problem themselves but just keep wasting time forever.

Re: Microsoft’s Surface Hub is now apparently a billion-dollar business

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In the fairly small organisation (1000+ screens in two sites) I work in the PCs switch themselves on overnight and do the updates then. I gather the updates are pushed from a server after being tested by the IT support chaps.

That is certainly ideal. Unfortunately, many (maybe even most) of the machines here are laptops which are taken home each night. I could probably overlook the Windows updates if it weren't for the noon full-disk virus scan every day, but that's a topic for another day :)

Yeah, laptops are a pain. We have laptop trollies with 30 machines in each trolley (education). The techies pull in each trolley in rotation to do updates.

Re: Microsoft’s Surface Hub is now apparently a billion-dollar business

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Can you do remote collaborative whiteboarding? I'm looking at this for either having a Hub at each end or a Hub at one end and a tablet at another. Trying to find a way to bring geographically distributed team members (virtually) closer together.

I tried my luck in this space but couldn't get it off the ground It's fully functional but lacks polish. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.writelive Small showcase: - vector graphics/drawings created by freehand / writing http://write-live.com/d/dba21681-8d3f-4fbe-8b4b-e5c1983df934 - handles more complex drawings: (give it time to load) http://write-live.com/d/7fce10bb-bc39-43d4-a7f1-6bd0d60b9550 http…

This is pretty cool

Re: Microsoft’s Surface Hub is now apparently a billion-dollar business

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Not that I disagree that iPhones are big, but cmon, "the biggest business on earth?" This is a planet that has Oil business, Telecom business, medical products, rice, coffee, fish, illicit drugs, pharmaceutical drugs. There are other businesses that are in a class well beyond a mere consumer electronic device, iPhone or no.

AAPL, GOOG, and MSFT all have market caps larger than XOM http://dogsofthedow.com/largest-companies-by-market-cap.htm

Google has a massive search business that composes the majority of its profits, apple has huge enterprise contracts for stuff like apple TV and the like that have nothing to do with their iphones, Microsoft has the obscenely large business side of the operation that has little to do with the Surface.

Re: Microsoft’s Surface Hub is now apparently a billion-dollar business

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Does anyone have a link to the promo video of the original Surface, the table in a restaurant version? It's soundtrack had a song I loved, can't remember the artist, and the version was different from the studio version.

Is it this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZmaZK435_8

Google Assistant tells me the song is "Out of Time" by Levitation (but I didn't click the track to listen so it may be wrong).

Re: Microsoft’s Surface Hub is now apparently a billion-dollar business

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> iPhones rapidly depreciate I've never heard this before-- and in fact most people seem to say the opposite. Just looked on eBay and according to recent sold listings, as of the past few days a 5 could easily bring $100-150 depending on configuration. That's a 4+ year old phone.

Going from $500 - $700 to $100 is a pretty big depreciation in my book. I guess it is better than going to $0 if that is what you are comparing it to. However, if you compare it to a durable good I do not imagine it compares well. (Example durable good: well built wood furniture)

Why would I compare to well-built wood furniture?

Let's do a comparison that makes sense. The Samsung Galaxy S3 (released at roughly the same time)is currently selling on eBay for $20-50.

Re: Microsoft’s Surface Hub is now apparently a billion-dollar business

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> iPhones rapidly depreciate I've never heard this before-- and in fact most people seem to say the opposite. Just looked on eBay and according to recent sold listings, as of the past few days a 5 could easily bring $100-150 depending on configuration. That's a 4+ year old phone.

If it was $500-600 new, it has lost ~80% of its value in 4 years. I think you can safely call that rapid depreciation. Maybe less rapid compared to other phones.

> Maybe less rapid compared to other phones.

Well, duh. I wasn't comparing the iPhone to an actual investment. The Galaxy S3 (released at roughly same time) is now selling for ~$50 on eBay (sometimes a bit higher).

Re: Microsoft’s Surface Hub is now apparently a billion-dollar business

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Does anyone have a link to the promo video of the original Surface, the table in a restaurant version? It's soundtrack had a song I loved, can't remember the artist, and the version was different from the studio version.

Is it this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZmaZK435_8 Google Assistant tells me the song is "Out of Time" by Levitation (but I didn't click the track to listen so it may be wrong).

No, not this one. The one I'm talking about had people talking about the product and how you could use it. The part with the song I'm talking about was a food restaurant setting (as opposed to a bar setting)

Edit: The one I have in mind was more like this one in terms of setting - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRU3NemA95k

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