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Re: Tor blocked in Turkey as government cracks down on VPN use

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I think it is fair to say it is technical enough to be here

It surely is, but since this site lately has taken a stance against politics here, I wanted to understand where the line is drawn.

The one week experiment ended early. Politics has been allowed again for longer than the experiment ended - I think we are supposed to remain civil though.

Re: Tor blocked in Turkey as government cracks down on VPN use

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And the EU says we should welcome them in to Europe...

Actually it was Britain who were arguing for their membership for years. Most of the EU was wildly sceptical due to an incompatiblility of cultures. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/11283...

Sir Humphrey Appleby: Minister, Britain has had the same foreign policy objective for at least the last 500 years: to create a disunited Europe. In that cause we have fought with the Dutch against the Spanish, with the Germans against the French, with the French and Italians against the Germans, and with the French against the Germans and Italians. Divide and rule, you see. Why should we change now, when it's worked so well?

James Hacker: That's all ancient history, surely.

Sir Humphrey Appleby: Yes, and current policy. We had to break the whole thing up, so we had to get inside. We tried to break it up from the outside, but that wouldn't work. Now that we're inside we can make a complete pig's breakfast of the whole thing.

Re: Tor blocked in Turkey as government cracks down on VPN use

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

China definitely has the capabilities they need. They might get help from Cisco, but they don't need to. I worked in an F50 that sold services, and we were constantly having to 'help' countries like Tunisia, Kazakstan etc. do some things we didn't want them to do, we tried to steer clear of being involved but we could not in some circumstances. But it wasn't that bad, it was mostly porn filtering and such.

What's an F50?

Forbes 50 I think?

Re: Tor blocked in Turkey as government cracks down on VPN use

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Decentralization is key to bypass these type of firewalls. All commercial VPN vendors will be on blacklists sooner or later.

Hang around lowendtalk / lowendbox and rent a tiny dir cheap VPS. Just SSH there and use the SOCKS5 proxy built into SSH. I hope they will not block SSH any time soon.

If they do you can set up a HTTPS website on your VPS with a secret proxy.

Re: Tor blocked in Turkey as government cracks down on VPN use

#35
Tor was funded by the US State Department specifically so that anti-government elements in foreign countries could plot against their equivalent of "the establishment". Given the recent furore about "hackers" stealing the election, how is it surprising that foreign governments don't want US interference in their internal politics?

Re: Tor blocked in Turkey as government cracks down on VPN use

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Decentralization is key to bypass these type of firewalls. All commercial VPN vendors will be on blacklists sooner or later. Hang around lowendtalk / lowendbox and rent a tiny dir cheap VPS. Just SSH there and use the SOCKS5 proxy built into SSH. I hope they will not block SSH any time soon. If they do you can set up a HTTPS website on your VPS with a secret proxy.

>I hope they will not block SSH any time soon

GFW already does that. it's not that hard either, if you're using ssh for forwarding purposes, chances are you're using way more bandwidth than if you're using it for teletype only.

Re: Tor blocked in Turkey as government cracks down on VPN use

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In my experience, these countries do not have the sophistication to do such things on their own, they usually hire (often Western) outside firms to do this. I think it would be helpful if the press would 'name names' in terms of the companies that are enabling this.

That's a very Western attitude. Turkey is an advanced country with amongst others, a sophisticated aerospace industry. There is no reason they can't have local expertise in networking, which lets face it is simple in comparison.

Re: Tor blocked in Turkey as government cracks down on VPN use

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Decentralization is key to bypass these type of firewalls. All commercial VPN vendors will be on blacklists sooner or later. Hang around lowendtalk / lowendbox and rent a tiny dir cheap VPS. Just SSH there and use the SOCKS5 proxy built into SSH. I hope they will not block SSH any time soon. If they do you can set up a HTTPS website on your VPS with a secret proxy.

Shows the importance of using simple tools.

Similarly, I've recently discovered how to send encrypted email from your command line, really really easy (note that Gmail throws these away if they come from an invalid domain name).

`echo "This is a secret message" | gpg -e -a -r "recipients@gpg.key" | mail -s "Your eyecatching subject line" recipients-email@example.com`

Re: Tor blocked in Turkey as government cracks down on VPN use

#39

This is the same President that turned to the internet - via Twitter and Facetime when there was a coup attempt against him, asking for them to help. http://www.wsj.com/articles/erdogan-embraces-social-media-to...

(Cannot read the paywalled article.)

I wonder how FaceTime was utilized, given that it's one-to-one link, not social media.

Re: Tor blocked in Turkey as government cracks down on VPN use

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Decentralization is key to bypass these type of firewalls. All commercial VPN vendors will be on blacklists sooner or later. Hang around lowendtalk / lowendbox and rent a tiny dir cheap VPS. Just SSH there and use the SOCKS5 proxy built into SSH. I hope they will not block SSH any time soon. If they do you can set up a HTTPS website on your VPS with a secret proxy.

>I hope they will not block SSH any time soon GFW already does that. it's not that hard either, if you're using ssh for forwarding purposes, chances are you're using way more bandwidth than if you're using it for teletype only.

SSH can also be used for SCP...
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