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GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

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Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

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Post by jolux »

cabalamat wrote: post #459
jolux wrote: post #438

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Professional bully? She's a Ruby developer, and a damned good one at that by all accounts. Even if you choose to categorize her as a "bully," it's very evident that "bullying" is a hobby of hers and not related to how well she does her job (programming). If her contributions to community management software are valuable, what does it matter her politics? I reiterate that if you are looking for a place to host your co…

> Even if you choose to categorize her as a "bully," it's very evident that "bullying" is a hobby of hers and not related to how well she does her job (programming). If she got her job at github through bullying then she is a professional bully.

>If she got her job at github through bullying then she is a professional bully.

How are we defining bullying, exactly? I'll let you do this because nothing that happened in that thread meets my definition.

What evidence do you have that she got her job through this alleged bullying?

Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

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Post by StavrosK »

smcl wrote: post #495
StavrosK wrote: post #269

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You can't really compare Github to Gitlab, when the former has a fifth the features of the latter.

Wait did you write that correctly - GitHub has less functionality/features than GitLab?

Yeah, much less. As the sibling says, GitLab has integrated CI/CD, extensive code review functionality (which GitHub just added), more fine-grained rules about who can merge what where, an integrated Docker hub, etc.

Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

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Post by bootload »

h1d wrote: post #564
bootload wrote: post #557

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"Github Open source Hosting should be supported by donation model like Wikipedia." That's why I asked the Q. Seems strange that large FOSS projects are hosted but no effort by github made to get some return.

Everyone flocking to use GitHub, is the return.

"Everyone flocking to use GitHub"

Infrastructure costs dollars. Everyone uses it puts more pressure on the uptime. Is GitHub as big (as much money to splash around) as google?

Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

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Post by quadrangle »

jolux wrote: post #399
quadrangle wrote: post #380

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They made a code-of-conduct. It pandered too strongly to the list-every-under-privileged-class attitude including explicitly rejecting the concept of "reverse discrimination" and so the reactionary folks who want to insist they aren't sexist and hate any moralizing or politics that challenge them etc. got up in arms. It was all a stupid side-show and had nothing to do with anything that matters to GitHub's basic serv…

The very suggestion that GitHub getting "political" supported by a single issue thread caused them to lose $66 million dollars is so laughable as to barely warrant confrontation.

yup. I hope it was clear in my wording that your reply is just the conclusion you should have.

Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

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Post by jolux »

quadrangle wrote: post #574
jolux wrote: post #399

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The very suggestion that GitHub getting "political" supported by a single issue thread caused them to lose $66 million dollars is so laughable as to barely warrant confrontation.

yup. I hope it was clear in my wording that your reply is just the conclusion you should have.

Definitely. I was shocked to see you were the only person rejecting the consensus on this and thus felt inclined to agree.

Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

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Post by quadrangle »

jolux wrote: post #575
quadrangle wrote: post #574

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yup. I hope it was clear in my wording that your reply is just the conclusion you should have.

Definitely. I was shocked to see you were the only person rejecting the consensus on this and thus felt inclined to agree.

Damnit. I was hoping to cut this off before it continued, but apparently the whiners about this got up-voted to being the highest answers here. The person asking what happened didn't need to know any of this, they just needed to know that there was some inconsequential brouhaha they could ignore.

Apparently the cliche is right: a large portion of programmers are sorta insular and socially awkward white guys who embrace the concept of "nerd" as a positive and so are a bit defensive and feel threatened about other views and groups and people invading their social space. They may have legitimate concerns here or in similar cases, but the level of energy about it is so clearly defensive and of a magnitude that's wholly unwarrented.

Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

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Post by jolux »

quadrangle wrote: post #576
jolux wrote: post #575

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Definitely. I was shocked to see you were the only person rejecting the consensus on this and thus felt inclined to agree.

Damnit. I was hoping to cut this off before it continued, but apparently the whiners about this got up-voted to being the highest answers here. The person asking what happened didn't need to know any of this, they just needed to know that there was some inconsequential brouhaha they could ignore. Apparently the cliche is right: a large portion of programmers are sorta insular and socially awkward white guys who embra…

It's not the nerd that's the problem per se, it's the reflexive rejection of other people's lived experience and the rush to label marginalized people asking not to be marginalized further as bullying that appalls me. You can disagree with the politics but when it comes to name calling the discussion is long over.

Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

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Post by jolux »

SixSigma wrote: post #481
pjc50 wrote: post #449

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The mountain does not go to Mohammed, Mohammed goes to the mountain. That is, politics is not something you can opt out of. Choosing to do or not do certain things impacts certain individuals and groups. The result is politics. It comes to you. If you operate any system by which humans can communicate, politics is inevitable.

Twitter is very politicised though. The ban hammer is not wielded impartially.

twitter has been the birthplace of many emancipatory political movements. How was it ever not political? Furthermore, how are they wielding the ban hammer badly these days? Banning abusive assholes like Milo for example who make the site less fun for everyone else should happen more often, not less.

Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

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Post by je42 »

pjc50 wrote: post #449
StreamBright wrote: post #409

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Similar to Twitter. I do not understand why the hell they get political.

The mountain does not go to Mohammed, Mohammed goes to the mountain. That is, politics is not something you can opt out of. Choosing to do or not do certain things impacts certain individuals and groups. The result is politics. It comes to you. If you operate any system by which humans can communicate, politics is inevitable.

actually, their are some systems that try to force political forces out of the company. see holocracy.

Re: GitHub lost $66M in nine months of 2016

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Post by throwanem »

sixstringtheory wrote: post #324
throwanem wrote: post #175

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Searching an issue number in the list page's text input should take me to the issue. Sounds small but it's a frequent irritation; I will be 200% happier with Gitlab once it's solved, and my teammates even more so.

If you have Alfred, you can set up a custom web search since issue numbers are in the URL. I have tons of these set up to get to different repos, my global list of PRs, etc. It's that much faster because you don't even need to open a browser or navigate to the page to type in a search field.

Interesting idea, but it doesn't really fit my use case, because I always have a tab open on the issues list page for each project on which I'm working at a given time. When I want to open tabs for issues of present interest, as when reviewing for deployment or preparing a changelog update, it'll be a lot more convenient to do so by searching issue numbers and middle-clicking their entries in the result, rather than the current method of copying a URL to an issue page, then doing C-TAB C-l C-v 1 2 3 RET with as many issue numbers as I have in hand to deal with.
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