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I really like the attitude of the voat founders expressed in this article: Has the fatpeoplehate group been hard to deal with? This group posted an image of us and called us fat. Instead of removing the image and banning the entire group, we decided to change our lives... I wish this attitude were more common in the world.
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It makes no sense to talk about Reddit and HN as if they had the same scope. It would be more appropriate to compare HN to a particular subreddit.
There was a time when Reddit did not have subreddits (or even the ability to comment). During this time, Reddit's community was very much like HN is currently. It was mostly techy people who found Digg was getting a little too "low brow". It may not have been explicitly tech focused, but it may as well have been.
Why can't a forum cater to everybody? E.g., you could hide troll comments using a filter.
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I probably didn't express my view well here. I did read the article & understand they aren't free speech absolutists. Still wondering how free speech will play out here, because I wonder if they will stick to eliminating trolls or if their moderation will be subjective and "politicized".
There's no free speech if you want to ban "hate speech" or "trolling". This more or less means removing all challenging opinions and basically focus on being an echo chamber even more so than reddit. Basically thought-crime policing
If you think left groups never disagree with each other, you're sadly misinformed. Left wing groups are famous for splitting over disagreements. Don't you remember the Judean People's Front and the People's Front of Judea?
I am staggered by the amount of people here who object to Imzy's "Be Nice"-policy on the basis that it limits free speech. To me that seems to be a rather flawed argumentation: a) The First Amendment of the US Constitution, which guarantees free speech, explicitly does so in a political context ("Congress shall make no law [...] abridging the freedom of speech"). Imzy is not the US Congress, they don't have jurisdict…
Press coverage of Imzy has been rather clickbait-y. It's a good angle to get attention I guess. How the actual site and community will feel and plays out in practice will actually feel rather normal. Its not super revolutionary.. Internet forum moderates discussion and participation for better resulting community.
I am staggered by the amount of people here who object to Imzy's "Be Nice"-policy on the basis that it limits free speech. To me that seems to be a rather flawed argumentation: a) The First Amendment of the US Constitution, which guarantees free speech, explicitly does so in a political context ("Congress shall make no law [...] abridging the freedom of speech"). Imzy is not the US Congress, they don't have jurisdict…
Right, exactly. If you own a bar and some person is picking fights all the time or generally acting like an asshole in your bar.. Then you tell them to change their behavior or throw them out of the bar. Or allow it and become "that kind of bar" over time. Press coverage of Imzy has been rather clickbait-y. It's a good angle to get attention I guess. How the actual site and community will feel and plays out in practi…
this is exactly why it isn't censorship. no one has a right to be an asshole on the internet, if you insist, don't be shocked when you get shown the door.
no one is obligated to deal with pricks.
calling it censorship or pretending to be persecuted for political opinions is disingenuous at best.
Some examples: (The first 3 are material-based, the last 3 seem are person-based (is there a better word for that?))
* State an opposing/unpopular view
* Refute a forum posting with facts
* Refute a posting with lies (a recent hot topic)
* Insult a specific person, libel, defame their reputation
* Death threats against "enemies", inciting a mob against a person/business/group
* DOXing your enemies or opposing moderators, hacking their accounts, destroying data.
Random question, what does it take to get an advertisement in a major paper? I suppose as long as you are part of the "in" crowd, any site/app/service you build will garner a free article for publicity?
It probably doesn't hurt if your story is that a major competitor to the mainstream news orgs is run for the benefit of misogynists and paedophiles.
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free speech is moving to voat and gab this site is not advertising itself as a free speech zone more like a polite speech zone
I heard about Voat recently when expressing unhappiness with Reddit. Will probably be checking it out, also... I am not that interested in the political discussion though, and on a first look it wasn't clear if Voat had much going on with techie/hobby type things. To me I think free speech is important as a political right, but these are private sites, and it's not clear to me 100% free speech is useful. I am more in…