Random question, what does it take to get an advertisement in a major paper? I suppose as long as you are part of the "in" crowd, any site/app/service you build will garner a free article for publicity?
Imzy wants to be a kinder, gentler version of Reddit
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Re: Imzy wants to be a kinder, gentler version of Reddit
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
If by safe spaces you mean places where people of colour aren't subjected to racism, gay people aren't subjected to homophobia and women aren't subjected to misogyny, then I fail to see how any of these types of attack would help anyone "move forward", even "creators".
A safe space was originally a place where you could have a discussion about anything. A transgender individual could sit down with say an evangelical pastor and have an honest discussion about issues they disagree on without ad hominem attacks, fear of saying the wrong thing, etc. Somehow Safe Spaces came to be regarded as a place safe from anything remotely controversial, which hinders having conversation with peopl…
The problem here is that we don't have a fixed definition of this relatively new concept. Your description here of safe spaces as places devoid of controversy does not match up with my experience of encountering the concept in the world and online. As I said, for me it means a place where prejudices are not expressed in (in your words) ad hominem attacks, not a place where complex, innovative thinking is forbidden. I'm not saying my experience of the concept is right and yours is wrong, but the fact is this discussion is bound to end in mutual confusion from the get-go given our differing understandings of 'safe space'.
Re: Imzy wants to be a kinder, gentler version of Reddit
#43I've been using imzy since very early on, and I have to say, I really like the idea of it. The basic premise is basically: "do whatever but play nice". And if you don't play nice you get modded and eventually kicked out.
I can get behind that TBH.
Also, to be sure, they do have some growing pains to go through. There are too many empty communities at this point (they should've started with fewer high-traffic ones). And the website perf isn't as fast as Reddit or HN. But I'm sure that will get worked out over time...
Re: Imzy wants to be a kinder, gentler version of Reddit
#44The only internet community that I've ever seen achieve a set of rules that are followed by the community has been somethingawful.com. And while there's lots of criticism you can lay on them, they've maintained a culture and community for nearly two decades.
They did this by making accounts to comment cost money, a one-time $10 fee. If you troll, you get banned and you need to pay $10 again to get your account back. It's a simple and brilliant solution- those who are good members of the community pay the least and those who make the community worse pay the most.
Re: Imzy wants to be a kinder, gentler version of Reddit
#45I'd say censorship is a bigger issue than trolls. Creating safe spaces to protect you from other views isn't going to make them go away.
I am not a user of Imzy, so I don't know how they choose to censor, but I don't see how censorship necessarily means living in a bubble.
Take a look at Reddit, where the /r/The_Donald, is just spam, shitposting and fake rumors, nothing to learn. On the other hand, there are subs like /r/AskThe_Donald/ which are very interesting.
IMHO banning communities like /r/The_Donald while encouraging the ones similar like /r/AskThe_Donald, would create a much better place, where you don't live in a bubble, without having to deal with people that just want to spam, shitpost and "trigger".
Re: Imzy wants to be a kinder, gentler version of Reddit
#46Why dont they call it what it is? A safe space for the left. Looking at the official "politics" section is just liberal-based editorials: https://www.imzy.com/politics
I lean left on the political spectrum for most things, but I cant help but think all this "safe space" stuff is what pushed the country into electing trump in the first place- It makes america look and feel weak.
Also, the site is ungodly slow and super difficult to navigate.
Re: Imzy wants to be a kinder, gentler version of Reddit
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Voat does not really support free speech, as per their user agreement: You may not use Voat to break the law, violate an individual's privacy, or infringe any person or entity’s intellectual property or any other proprietary rights. (...) You agree to not post anyone's sensitive personal information that relates to that person's real world or online identity. Do Not Incite Harm: You agree not to encourage harm agains…
Free speech doesn't mean "anything goes even if illegal"
To me, it does. Free speech is an upper bound on human expression - anything less than absolute is something less than "free."
I'm not advocating for this - sites should police certain illegal and immoral activities. Doing so is clearly in the benefit of society and the quality of any online community. But accepting this is subjugating free speech for the sake of cultural norms and legal necessity.
Re: Imzy wants to be a kinder, gentler version of Reddit
#48I guess most of the world could live in safe spaces like this? But for the creators and doers it's horrific. We move forward by being challenged. That includes everything. (until AI has the ability to filter out things that challenge but don't move us forward)
Why is it a safe space? Trolling is completely different than challenging ideas. A lot of reddit is a complete waste of time. People want to be "clever" and have a yuck. There's a lot of noise.
Re: Imzy wants to be a kinder, gentler version of Reddit
#49I don't understand how commenters generalize about Reddit: the is no Reddit, only subreddits - each of which is moderated in a different way. I moderate /r/Africa we deal with speech mercilessly. /r/askScience or /r/askHistorians have even stricter policies. On the other hand, there are subreddits which are most definitely hateful... But I never go there. In the middle, I'm still subscribed to /r/Europe which is a battleground... I won't give it up and I do not see how any amount of moderation could make it better: politics are all about conflicting ideas !
Re: Imzy wants to be a kinder, gentler version of Reddit
#50Lot's "but this isn't free speech" in here, but that's exactly the point, free speech has been tried and it leads to shit holes like reddit and voat. Places you might visit, but wouldn't recommend or even admit to using in a mixed group. People talk about free speech like it's some goal, but in reality all people seem to do with it is make fun of fat people and post stolen naked pictures of celebrities. When confront…
Free speech is designed to protect potitically important edge cases not optimized for your entertainment or consumption. Thats not to say it cant be, this site for example seems to work out pretty well due to the carefully designed comment economy and fair moderation system.