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Knuth: Fantasia Apocalyptica

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Re: Knuth: Fantasia Apocalyptica

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you elaborate?

Not the OP, but LilyPond is a TeX-like music editor. Sibelius is a WYSIWYG editor. One might expect the author of TeX to prefer a similar approach to typesetting music. Like the OP, though, I don't find it surprising. Writing in your native language is relatively easy. Writing music is a lot harder, especially for an amateur (like me). Using the most intuitive software available is probably a good idea.

Knuth wrote the music by hand and someone else transcribed it for him.

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Sir Isaac Newton wasted much of his life trying to inject religion into his science. Ultimately it was for nil, as the concept of God has no place in science. Cute, but trying to draw meaning in numbers derived from millennia aged books is this same madness.

He isn't trying to inject religion into science. He's using a religious text as inspiration for music. This is hardly unorthodox.

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Sir Isaac Newton wasted much of his life trying to inject religion into his science. Ultimately it was for nil, as the concept of God has no place in science. Cute, but trying to draw meaning in numbers derived from millennia aged books is this same madness.

In my early days of learning to program, I spent a lot of time writing console and web apps to better organize bible notes and linking verses together as I read through the bible. Then for extra "fun", I made a spam bot that would post my random notes and verses on various forums (and yes I know as my colleagues told me "that's unethical as hell").

But nonetheless, I was interested in it. I wrote most of the console stuff in straight C++ without objects, then went back and rewrote it with objects but not using inheritance (each object had a 'type' char like a,b,c etc). Then I rewrote it once again using proper OO and did away with the type chars.

I did not know HTTP, but through writing spam bots with perl I learned it well. I also made the same mistakes as earlier with just writing bad code (had one "master" script that I cut and pasted from and modified for each website), but I eventually modularized it and made a nice framework as I learned software engineering principles better.

My first job out of college, I automated a few tasks that had no interface using web scraping code that I ripped straight from my spam bot framework :)

Then 6 years later I needed to learn Python since everyone says perl is dead, and the only thing that really had my interest again was updating my spam bots to python from perl. Most of them had gone dormant or been banned by then.

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On top of being a genius, reading Knuth is such a pleasant experience. Without having ever interacted with him, he comes across as such a wonderful soul.

Yes, that's one advantage of being a genius - reading books that seem difficult to others becomes a pleasant experience.

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I heard a performance of a couple chapters last month. I'm not musically or scripturally sophisticated enough to appreciate the verse-by-verse mapping to Revelation, but the music on its own was enjoyable.

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On top of being a genius, reading Knuth is such a pleasant experience. Without having ever interacted with him, he comes across as such a wonderful soul.

Yes, that's one advantage of being a genius - reading books that seem difficult to others becomes a pleasant experience.

Not how I took that. There are large parts of his books that are difficult to read. Yes. However, they are a lot more approachable than you would think. Most of them are oddly written, but his humor is pleasant and I have found thinking of algorithms similar to how he puts them helps. A lot.

It has helped humble me though, to know that pretty much everything he presents requires study. I have had few things from his book that I just got. Most required trying several times before they clicked.

And, if you ever read some of his afterwards, there are plenty of places where he concedes mistakes he made. Is really nice to see.

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Sir Isaac Newton wasted much of his life trying to inject religion into his science. Ultimately it was for nil, as the concept of God has no place in science. Cute, but trying to draw meaning in numbers derived from millennia aged books is this same madness.

In my early days of learning to program, I spent a lot of time writing console and web apps to better organize bible notes and linking verses together as I read through the bible. Then for extra "fun", I made a spam bot that would post my random notes and verses on various forums (and yes I know as my colleagues told me "that's unethical as hell"). But nonetheless, I was interested in it. I wrote most of the console…

> straight C++ without objects

That is sacrilegious. I believe most people call that kind of C++ C.

Re: Knuth: Fantasia Apocalyptica

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Sir Isaac Newton wasted much of his life trying to inject religion into his science. Ultimately it was for nil, as the concept of God has no place in science. Cute, but trying to draw meaning in numbers derived from millennia aged books is this same madness.

I think he is just doing it for fun though. Your criticism is akin to saying people shouldn't waste their time passing around a piece of rubber in a grassy field.

And they shouldn't.

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This is cool. The organ is infrequently used because it is so huge but if you want high drama it's the right tool for the job. Interstellar on church organ is intense. Feel inspired here: https://youtu.be/zg5QMysuSYg

I love organ music; but you have to listen to it live. The low notes don't come across properly on recorded media (also you don't feel your chest resonate).

Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D Minor, one of the most famous pieces of organ music ever, played on an organ built in 1730 (and, if I read the history right, it was actually specified by Bach):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnuq9PXbywA

You can hear the recording simply outright fail on the low notes. The organ has a 32-foot pipe, which produces 16Hz notes. The reocrding simply doesn't do it justice; if you ever get the chance, listen to it live; it's an almost transcendent experience.

There are, however, apparently two organs in the world with 64-foot pipes (8Hz!) and several more which can synthesise an 8Hz subharmonic using smaller pipes, but I haven't found a recording I trust of it yet.

Re: Knuth: Fantasia Apocalyptica

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On top of being a genius, reading Knuth is such a pleasant experience. Without having ever interacted with him, he comes across as such a wonderful soul.

Knuth is very pleasant in person too!
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