Wall Street Journal is actually praising Belarus: http://www.wsj.com/articles/belarus-is-emerging-as-the-silic...
This is a PR piece by Belarus national tech hub development agency. And they still put caveats about dictatorship and all.
Belarus finally bans Tor
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#102Funnily enough I can read the comments here but my employer's filtering proxy (Blue Coat) blocked the torproject.org ;-)
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urandom.pcap: Belarus (finally) bans Tor Leonid Evdokimov 2016-12-08 00:00:00 +0000 UTC Country: Belarus Probed ISPs: Beltelecom (AS 6697) Censorship method: TCP injections We have recently heard of network anomalies in Belarus. Tor has been finally blocked in December 2016, although it had been explicitly declared that Tor should be blocked since February 2015. Directly connected users from Belarus An anonymous cyph…
("fried potato" is a reference to cliché Belarusian obsession with potato)
Thanks for explaining.. was not aware of this.
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#104Is it possible for anyone to share the full text of the post for those of use behind a great firewall? Edit: thanks!
https://web.archive.org/web/20161208223355/https://ooni.torp... Hope you still have access to archive.org ;)
That is a neat trick.. I was also blocked but web archive works fine!
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#105Funnily enough I can read the comments here but my employer's filtering proxy (Blue Coat) blocked the torproject.org ;-)
Belarus is just making sure Belarusian workers stay productive with that Tor ban just like in BlueCoat.
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You can do all that on a host PC as well. I still don't see what additional layer of security Raspberry Pi adds here. Or am I missing something?
The idea is that even if the host PC is pwned the Pi will still route the traffic from it via Tor.
If the host PC is pwned then it can still disclose useful information about itself (files, Geo locations, mac addresses) - it will just be routed over TOR.
Re: Belarus finally bans Tor
#107Wall Street Journal is actually praising Belarus: http://www.wsj.com/articles/belarus-is-emerging-as-the-silic...
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I am neither from Belarus nor Russia and don't know what to think here. If either of you can provide some references to back up your positions that would be great, thanks.
My position is equal to yours: unless there are facts, it's a fantasy (modestly saying). Moreover, in this particular case there are facts which don't fit into the idea that Russia first experiments in Belarus. For example Russia has a regulation that personal info of user should be stored inside the country (LinkeIn was banned recently for not obeying this regulation). There is no such regulation in Belarus. If Russ…
No one says Belarus is the only place to run experiments on, or need in such field for every single experiment etc.
Also, there was an initiative to move all the servers into the country (still in effect officially) for both domestic and foreign companies. Obviously it can not be achieved (just imagine fitting Microsoft-size-worth of servers into tiny country like Belarus (~9M people). For country like Russia you can do something like that to _some_ _degree_
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My position is equal to yours: unless there are facts, it's a fantasy (modestly saying). Moreover, in this particular case there are facts which don't fit into the idea that Russia first experiments in Belarus. For example Russia has a regulation that personal info of user should be stored inside the country (LinkeIn was banned recently for not obeying this regulation). There is no such regulation in Belarus. If Russ…
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120103/07193917260/no-be... looks likda similar
It's ukaz #60, an internet regulation in Belarus. It's different from the Russian regulation about storing user's data in the country and it confirms the countries progress in regulating new areas, like internet, independently. Everyone looks at everyone's experience, but it's not like one country is a playground for another.
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Depends on how serious the risk is. You run the risk of "getting jailed" for all kinds of minor crimes that people routinely commit. Are people actually going to get arrested for trying to use Tor? I don't think that's very plausible. You could pretty easily claim it was malware trying to make the connection and you don't know anything about it.
Yeah, you could claim that. Then, they search your computer and find no traces of malware but they find a copy of the Tor Browser Bundle. Now what? Besides, law enforcement never just "takes your word for it". I've got a lot of friends in law enforcement and -- as far as "suspects" go -- they'll pretty much (attempt to) verify every claim you make.
Plausible deniability/difficulty of conviction means that LEOs rarely pursue cases where that would apply. I agree once they open an investigation, they'll verify the claim; I'm saying that crimes that have high acquittal rates and/or low prosecutorial uptake will get less attention from the police because it's frustrating/difficult/wasteful to spend a lot of time on things that don't usually pan out.
I don't know how the system works in Belarus so I understand it may not really matter there. The point is that it's going to be difficult to prove that the accused made an intentional connection to Tor as long as the accused and/or his/her lawyer has some technical literacy and knows what to say.