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Safari Technology Preview supports 100% of the ES2015/16/17 features

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Re: Safari Technology Preview supports 100% of the ES2015/16/17 features

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Honnest question for Safari users: why Safari? I don't really know Safari. I used Chrome on Windows and iOS, and when I moved to OSX I naturally continued with Chrome. And the dev tools are really great.

More power efficient which is key because I use a laptop all the time, and often on battery power. It fits better with macOS conventions compared to Chrome and Firefox. It's faster. Safari content blockers (I use 1Blocker) seems to not slow down page loading at all compared to conventional ad-blockers on both Safari and Chrome, which does. I used Chrome on Mac for years. Then Safari became better, and then it kept ge…

Is there any way to hook up bookmark syncing cross browser? Better battery life would be nice, but I like having Chrome's sync between Mac, Windows, Linux, and iOS.

Re: Safari Technology Preview supports 100% of the ES2015/16/17 features

#82

Honnest question for Safari users: why Safari? I don't really know Safari. I used Chrome on Windows and iOS, and when I moved to OSX I naturally continued with Chrome. And the dev tools are really great.

Chrome is ugly. Chrome forces tabs on you (the real estate is wasted whether or not you believe in tabs; I don't, I think it's the sign of a failed window manager). Chrome is slow.

I use Chrome every day because all of my work stuff on my work laptop goes in Chrome, and all of my personal stuff goes in Safari, because that's what I like the best and use at home. Separate browsers mean separate session tokens for work vs personal gmail.

Re: Safari Technology Preview supports 100% of the ES2015/16/17 features

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post #28

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More power efficient which is key because I use a laptop all the time, and often on battery power. It fits better with macOS conventions compared to Chrome and Firefox. It's faster. Safari content blockers (I use 1Blocker) seems to not slow down page loading at all compared to conventional ad-blockers on both Safari and Chrome, which does. I used Chrome on Mac for years. Then Safari became better, and then it kept ge…

Is there any way to hook up bookmark syncing cross browser? Better battery life would be nice, but I like having Chrome's sync between Mac, Windows, Linux, and iOS.

I believe that iCloud Tabs works to sync Safari bookmarks with Chrome. Not sure it's bulletproof though in my experience...

Re: Safari Technology Preview supports 100% of the ES2015/16/17 features

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The power efficiency isn't even close. The 2016 MBP battery lasts about 10 hours running Safari versus 3 hours running Chrome. I've never particularly liked Safari, but I'm close to switching myself because Chrome is such a disaster. From the energy impact tab on the Activity Monitor: Chrome: 43 Safari: 0.3

+1. I use Safari for everything work, personal stuff like banking and news. Chrome incognito for you know what.

Purchasing secret presents, the use case incognito was designed for ;)

Re: Safari Technology Preview supports 100% of the ES2015/16/17 features

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I mean the title is the whole context. If you're worried about the table not being static, one can ideally refer to an archive [0] (just saved it) or since this is an open source project that is version controlled, the specific revision [1] displayed. [0]: https://web.archive.org/web/20161208203812/http://kangax.git... [1]: https://github.com/kangax/compat-table/blob/559825d41e7b8773...

I wouldn't say that I'm "worried", but the title states a fact that will likely, at some point, not be supported by the given link.

That's why you watch the date (despite several clickbait farms working hard to hide or fake them)

Re: Safari Technology Preview supports 100% of the ES2015/16/17 features

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post #16

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Many reasons. Among those I care about: * It's a lot more power-efficient than any other browser. * In my experience, it's often faster than Chrome. * It follows platform conventions. I still get weirded out by Chrome cramming everything into that ⋮ button. * It syncs history, favorites, and open tabs over iCloud to Safari on my phone. It also supports Handoff. * It's not made by Google, a company that I prefer to gi…

An FYI regarding "In my experience, it's often faster than Chrome"... I found during development that Safari will start retrieving suggested URLs even before you finish typing them, so if I'm going to 'news.ycombinator.com', it makes the request when I hit 'n', and by the time I hit a few more characters and enter a few hundred milliseconds later, the request is already complete.

I actually think Chrome was doing this long before Safari was

Re: Safari Technology Preview supports 100% of the ES2015/16/17 features

#88

Honnest question for Safari users: why Safari? I don't really know Safari. I used Chrome on Windows and iOS, and when I moved to OSX I naturally continued with Chrome. And the dev tools are really great.

Chrome on iOS is really Safari when it comes to rendering engine, which is what the current news is about...

Re: Safari Technology Preview supports 100% of the ES2015/16/17 features

#89
post #16

Honnest question for Safari users: why Safari? I don't really know Safari. I used Chrome on Windows and iOS, and when I moved to OSX I naturally continued with Chrome. And the dev tools are really great.

Many reasons. Among those I care about: * It's a lot more power-efficient than any other browser. * In my experience, it's often faster than Chrome. * It follows platform conventions. I still get weirded out by Chrome cramming everything into that ⋮ button. * It syncs history, favorites, and open tabs over iCloud to Safari on my phone. It also supports Handoff. * It's not made by Google, a company that I prefer to gi…

Good list, let me add bad color display.

Chrome shows wrong, washed out or desaturated colors everywhere (not just embedded images without color profiles or wrong gamma, but css hex colors), it's a big difference from Safari, Firefox and specially from browsers on Windows machines and phones.

Re: Safari Technology Preview supports 100% of the ES2015/16/17 features

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More power efficient which is key because I use a laptop all the time, and often on battery power. It fits better with macOS conventions compared to Chrome and Firefox. It's faster. Safari content blockers (I use 1Blocker) seems to not slow down page loading at all compared to conventional ad-blockers on both Safari and Chrome, which does. I used Chrome on Mac for years. Then Safari became better, and then it kept ge…

The power efficiency isn't even close. The 2016 MBP battery lasts about 10 hours running Safari versus 3 hours running Chrome. I've never particularly liked Safari, but I'm close to switching myself because Chrome is such a disaster. From the energy impact tab on the Activity Monitor: Chrome: 43 Safari: 0.3

10 hours vs 3 hours for current browser versions, running equivalent tabs/extensions/settings? Sorry but I don't believe you.

Can you point to battery benchmarks or is this an off the cuff personal test?

Are you talking about an old version of Chrome? You're aware they've been making progress recently?

https://9to5mac.com/2016/09/06/google-chrome-mac-battery-per...

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