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Ask HN: Best current model routers for OpenWRT, DD-WRT, Tomato, etc.?

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Re: Ask HN: Best current model routers for OpenWRT, DD-WRT, Tomato, etc.?

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As long as you can do without 802.11ac, make sure you get something supported by the ath9k driver, which IIRC is the only driver that doesn't need a firmware blob. So all the people working on bufferbloat etc. are using that driver for their tests, so you'll get the improvements first.

I have a TP-Link TL-WDR3600 v1 running OpenWRT. It was cheap, and works fine.

Re: Ask HN: Best current model routers for OpenWRT, DD-WRT, Tomato, etc.?

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I have the Asus RT-AC68U/TM-AC1900. I bought it from T-Mobile for $60 and flashed it to stock and then put Asuswrt-Merlin on it (but you can use Tomato or DD-WRT). It does take a little work to flash it to stock (like Telnet'ing into the router), but it wasn't bad and for $60 I ended up with a wonderful router. There are guides online for flashing it back to stock. If you're looking for information, I suggest SmallNe…

I'll third the Asus RT series.

I just replace my FIOS router with an ASUS RT-AC66U running AsusWRT-Merlin (I understand the stock firmware is based on Tomato). It is very fast, stable, has great coverage and is extremely configurable/hackable. I think I paid $75 for it from Amazon Warehouse Deals.

Re: Ask HN: Best current model routers for OpenWRT, DD-WRT, Tomato, etc.?

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A router has nothing to do with providing WiFi. You should have a separate router and WAP. For the router, any fanless mini-PC with two ethernet ports. Run OpenBSD or pfSense.

I wonder, are there simple powerful just AP's comparable to the already mentioned routers? Just with less features...

I had the Asus AC68U, which was the best rated consumer router on smallnetbuilders, in terms of wifi range and speed. I just replaced it with a Ubiquiti AC-PRO access point which is much cheaper than the Asus. The Ubiquiti is maginally better in my informal testing with the two in the same location. After ceiling-mounting the Ubiquti in a more central location, it blows the asus out of the water. It went from ~100 MBit -> 500+ on the old "dead spot" desktop, the raspberry pi on that desk went from 22MBit to 72MBit. The rest of the house has better coverage than before.

For a router, I use openbsd and this guide: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13052673

The router is an AMD that runs almost any unix, so it is more or less immune to obsolescence due to lack of software updates (Linux and *BSD all have to abandon headless x86-64...)

Total cost was ~$300. The router was $200 of that and should last until my home internet connection is ~1GBit (OpenBSD probably can't NAT quite that quickly on that hardware--haven't measured it).

[edit: fixed asus model number]

Re: Ask HN: Best current model routers for OpenWRT, DD-WRT, Tomato, etc.?

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What fanless mini PC should I use to run a VPN gateway at line speed? I see a lot of random boxes reccommended on aliexpress, but which one should I buy? Should I just get whatever one, as long as it has the right AES instructions? Or are some of them awful?

Re: Ask HN: Best current model routers for OpenWRT, DD-WRT, Tomato, etc.?

#65
tplink c7. period. you can go and read the detailed reviews on whirlpoolforums. the amount of ram available is 512mb which is huge.

if i were you, i would take an el cheapo j1900 intel box (from aliexpress) with quad lan ports and run pfsense on it. perhaps the best bang for buck configuration known to man!

Re: Ask HN: Best current model routers for OpenWRT, DD-WRT, Tomato, etc.?

#66
Among the open source router options, what's the best for multi-WAN and flexible QoS?

I was looking at switching from ASUS on Merlin to Tomato for better QoS and to try out multi-WAN that was added in shibby about a year ago. I really want the internet to be reliable and fail over to a 2nd connection and then back fairly seamlessly.

Am I better off using pfSense (or something else) vs trying one of these integrated router/wireless firmwares?

Years ago I started looking for multi-WAN and got the very disappointing Linksys / Cisco RV042. It worked, but the interface was crap and it lacked a lot of the features that even consumer routers had. For an office of up to 50 people (and 2x devices) we've been using an ASUS RT-AC66R on Merlin and it's worked pretty well in that it's rock solid stable for many months at a time, has a bit of features - now including nice graphs for per-host bandwidth monitoring, and basic QoS and multi-WAN. The biggest issue is that QoS options are limited and it's hard to know if it's even working properly. The multi-WAN auto failover seems buggy and that seems like an area that Merlin hasn't touched.

Re: Ask HN: Best current model routers for OpenWRT, DD-WRT, Tomato, etc.?

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I use two devices to handle usual definition of the router: 1. Mini PC[1] running as a router (pfSense); 2. eero to handle the wifi. Why? I've tried many times to use dd-wrt, openwrt and tomato firmwares on my routers, but every time I failed miserably: it's either something stops working, or I need to schedule routers reboots and so. So I gave up. Since that time, mini pc [1] is the third system which routes my traf…

I also use a MiniPC running pfSense and couldn't be happier. I made the switch 3 years ago, after running a Linksys WRT54G-TM on OpenWRT for 5+ years. pfSense is simple to get started with, powerful enough for small to medium businesses and "just works." The initial setup might be a bit more $$$ ($150 for hardware), but it will last you a long time.

Which MiniPC did you use? I'm considering a similar setup, so options to consider would be welcome.

Re: Ask HN: Best current model routers for OpenWRT, DD-WRT, Tomato, etc.?

#68

I think the Turris Omnia ( https://omnia.turris.cz/en/ ) looks fantastic, and plan on getting one when my budget allows. On further (re)inspection though it seems you'd still be tied to your ISP's router/modem :( Perhaps there's a good standalone/mPCI modem out there somewhere?

Turris Omnia has a SFP port, so if your ISP has that option, you can get rid of your modem.

Good call, but my line in is RJ25 so probably not gonna happen.

Re: Ask HN: Best current model routers for OpenWRT, DD-WRT, Tomato, etc.?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found https://www.amazon.com/Qotom-Q190G4-Celeron-Processor-Barebo... a fantastic device for the price. There's a non-Atom Celeron, a Broadwell chip and four Intel LAN ports in a <$150 package without moving parts. My home is small so this also handles the wifi for me.

What OS you running on that?

Arch Linux. I don't need a fancy UI, I can configure my networking just fine. I also use it as a media player.

Re: Ask HN: Best current model routers for OpenWRT, DD-WRT, Tomato, etc.?

#70
I know others have recommended this already, but I would also say that your best bet is to buy some Ubiquiti hardware. An EdgeRouter X + UniFI Pro dual-band AP is on the order of $200 from Amazon and has way, way better functionality than SOHO hardware of same price point, with the principal issue that it is enterprise hardware, and is very much not point-and-click to set up. I think the tradeoff in functionality and build quality is worth it, though.

I recently replaced my PC router running pfSense with an EdgeRouter X - at ~$50 the power savings alone will probably pay for it in less than a year, and the only thing I can't do with it that I could do with pfSense is create a standalone OpenVPN endpoint - so I'm moving that functionality to a server that was running anyway.

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