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Ask HN: Best current model routers for OpenWRT, DD-WRT, Tomato, etc.?

#1
I'm in the process of choosing new device(s) for a small wireless network in multi-story building and prefer having devices supporting some open source router software/firmware (OpenWRT, DD-WRT, Tomato). The amount of models available is enormous, but as the last Ask HN[0] (from 3 years ago) on this topic was a good starting point I think some good up-to-date advice can come up now. malandrew the original poster told it well so:

> If one were to decide to buy a brand new model router to install open source router software on, where would you go to find out the best current models and be able to compare their features? > While it would be nice to know the best models as of today, I think it's more interesting to be taught how to fish instead of being given a fish. This also makes it easier for me (and anyone else) to pass this advice onto the next person.

[0] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6828699

Re: Ask HN: Best current model routers for OpenWRT, DD-WRT, Tomato, etc.?

#2
For now, by my research the best candidates are

- TP-Link Archer C7 (supported by both DD-WRT and OpenWRT, and recommended by the latter)

- Linksys WRT1200AC/1900AC (supported by both DD-WRT and OpenWRT)

- Ubiquiti UAP-AC-LITE/LR/PRO (OpenWRT, diffrent models depending how much speed/range do you need. No routing here, just access points.)

For any models discussed, please keep in mind that depending on the hardware version, the firmware support is different.

Re: Ask HN: Best current model routers for OpenWRT, DD-WRT, Tomato, etc.?

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For now, by my research the best candidates are - TP-Link Archer C7 (supported by both DD-WRT and OpenWRT, and recommended by the latter) - Linksys WRT1200AC/1900AC (supported by both DD-WRT and OpenWRT) - Ubiquiti UAP-AC-LITE/LR/PRO (OpenWRT, diffrent models depending how much speed/range do you need. No routing here, just access points.) For any models discussed, please keep in mind that depending on the hardware v…

I'll second the recommendation on the TP-Link Archer C7. It's a really nice, not too expensive, piece of kit. Bought one for my folks to replace a cheap old Walmart-grade LinkSys, and it was night and day better - now my dad can pick up usable signal in his garage, 500 yards away from the router.

Re: Ask HN: Best current model routers for OpenWRT, DD-WRT, Tomato, etc.?

#5
I bought the Buffalo N300 not long ago:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IB8IVDQ/ref=oh_aui_deta...

I've been extremely happy with this purchase, admittedly I'm a bit of a high-demand user (I host a number of minor services for myself and friends including TeamSpeak, minecraft, as well as operating two Xbox Ones) so I needed something with good port forwarding support and UPNP. Rock solid, straight DD-WRT interface with minor branding, shell access, and monitoring support. This router's been an absolute champ and I'd recommend it to anyone.

Re: Ask HN: Best current model routers for OpenWRT, DD-WRT, Tomato, etc.?

#7
The first thing you need to know is that the OpenWRT project is basically dead and that 95+% of the developers went over to the LEDE Project. However, LEDE has not yet published a stable release yet. You can get nightly builds that are in pretty good shape though.

I would highly recommend an ipq806x-based system, if you can afford it. Almost always matched with qca9880 radios. These are modern 802.11ac wave2 systems.

ipq806x is a Qualcomm-Atheros SoC. Go to wikidevi for specifications on the chips and all of the devices I mention below.

Check camelcamelcamel for recent pricing info if buying in the USA.

The list would be:

Linksys EA8500

TP-Link Archer C2600 (Not recommended due to TP-Link going anti-OSS. Modern versions require signed firmware and other DRM junk)

Trendnet TEW827DRU (Not yet accepted into LEDE, but could be any day now)

Netgear R7800 (Has a slightly faster CPU, but more expensive)

Netgear R7500v2 (Avoid the V1)

ZyXEL NBG6817 (Has the same slightly faster CPU as the R7800, but it's storage flash is goofy and I'm not 100% sure it's fully working. Ask the lede-dev mailing list first.)

The top issue that all of these devices have is that the 802.11 radio LEDs don't work yet because the driver is missing support for it. However, if you can live without blinking lights, these models are the way to go. This feature will almost certainly get fixed in the future.

I would tell you to go with the Linksys EA8500 if price/value is your concern. Otherwise the Netgear R7800 has a very active dev and probably has the best support. The ZyXEL NBG6817 looks really interesting to me, but I don't have one yet.

If $140-$200 USD is too much for you, look to some older 802.11ac devices. Like I said above, avoid TP-Link as they have started locking down their devices by removing serial ports and requiring signed firmware/DRM etc.

Your list here in comments is pretty good, though I'd avoid the TP-Link unless you can get one that is older (before TP-Link became anti-OSS.)

Good luck

Re: Ask HN: Best current model routers for OpenWRT, DD-WRT, Tomato, etc.?

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post #3
post #2

For now, by my research the best candidates are - TP-Link Archer C7 (supported by both DD-WRT and OpenWRT, and recommended by the latter) - Linksys WRT1200AC/1900AC (supported by both DD-WRT and OpenWRT) - Ubiquiti UAP-AC-LITE/LR/PRO (OpenWRT, diffrent models depending how much speed/range do you need. No routing here, just access points.) For any models discussed, please keep in mind that depending on the hardware v…

I'll second the recommendation on the TP-Link Archer C7. It's a really nice, not too expensive, piece of kit. Bought one for my folks to replace a cheap old Walmart-grade LinkSys, and it was night and day better - now my dad can pick up usable signal in his garage, 500 yards away from the router.

Here are 3 links that might be usefull: http://rooftopbazaar.com/routerfirmware/

https://www.reddit.com/r/openwrt/comments/423rn6/best_2015_o...

https://www.reddit.com/r/openwrt/comments/36s530/better_ac_r...

Initially I was also planning to buy the Archer C7 but it seems OpenWRT is not flawless on it. This is unfortunate since that appears to be the recommended router for OpenWRT, so there is nothing on which OpenWRT works perfectly.

That was the situation 10 months ago. I'm not sure if things have changed since then. If they did, the OpenWRT has not been updated: https://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/tl-wdr7500 According to some recentish posts on their forum there may be hope: https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?pid=342710#p342710

I wonder if it isn't better to just go DIY ( http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2016/09/diy-homebrew-router... ) with pfSense or with the PCEngines apu1d4 and use a separate switch and access point.

Right now, it is very important to have a router with firmware you can trust and upgrade, otherwise sooner or later it will join a botnet. Therefore for me any router option without FLOSS firmware support is eliminated.

Edit: Just read the comment above about OpenWRT being dead. Looking into LEDE.

Re: Ask HN: Best current model routers for OpenWRT, DD-WRT, Tomato, etc.?

#10
I think the Turris Omnia (https://omnia.turris.cz/en/) looks fantastic, and plan on getting one when my budget allows.

On further (re)inspection though it seems you'd still be tied to your ISP's router/modem :(

Perhaps there's a good standalone/mPCI modem out there somewhere?

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