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Re: A practical guide for learning meditation through the art of gaming

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Post by knight17 » Sun, Dec 04, 2016, 6:06 AM UTC

TheLegace wrote: post #38

pixelperfect wrote: post #24

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Interesting to see a reference to Culadasa on HN. I discovered his site in 2013 and listened to almost his entire podcast archive. For more than a year I meditated 1+ hours every day, but ultimately I didn't make much progress according to the 10 stages model he has laid out. I ended up getting skeptical/discouraged and stopped meditating regularly. How about you?

I've had severe attention issues, that I always thought it was caused by ADHD, but after many years of trying everything I could possibly think of. I realized it was caused by anxiety deeply rooted in painful emotional experiences which influenced how I reacted to stimuli. I realized this after a reading a book on trauma. After suffering from terrible panic attacks for many months. and tirelessly trying to meditate f…

How would one go about starting neurofeedback training? Can this be done at home by ourselves, if so what equipment do we need and what are its cost? Can you give any further pointers/links?

Re: A practical guide for learning meditation through the art of gaming

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Post by danarlow » Mon, Dec 05, 2016, 12:09 AM UTC

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aaimnr wrote: post #12

The fact that meditative absorptions are a type of Flow experience (very unique one, see below), doesn't mean that any Flow state is meditation. These games may very well induce a flow state (as Flappy Birds can, if you're good at it), but it doesn't make it meditation. Here's a quote from Culadasa, a neurophysiologist and an adept meditator: "What sets both Meditative Joy and flow apart from ordinary Joy is that it…

Interesting to see a reference to Culadasa on HN. I discovered his site in 2013 and listened to almost his entire podcast archive. For more than a year I meditated 1+ hours every day, but ultimately I didn't make much progress according to the 10 stages model he has laid out. I ended up getting skeptical/discouraged and stopped meditating regularly. How about you?

Hey, I've done some (supervised) teaching in Culadasa's method and I've done three retreats with him. We've got a Google Hangout every Tuesday where we discuss our practice and help people out who are stuck, and I think we have a great track record of getting people quickly un-stuck. Hit me up (email in my profile) if you're interested! @aaimnr you too, I'd love to hear your perspective.

Re: A practical guide for learning meditation through the art of gaming

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Post by aaimnr » Mon, Dec 05, 2016, 10:35 AM UTC

TheLegace wrote: post #38

pixelperfect wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting to see a reference to Culadasa on HN. I discovered his site in 2013 and listened to almost his entire podcast archive. For more than a year I meditated 1+ hours every day, but ultimately I didn't make much progress according to the 10 stages model he has laid out. I ended up getting skeptical/discouraged and stopped meditating regularly. How about you?

I've had severe attention issues, that I always thought it was caused by ADHD, but after many years of trying everything I could possibly think of. I realized it was caused by anxiety deeply rooted in painful emotional experiences which influenced how I reacted to stimuli. I realized this after a reading a book on trauma. After suffering from terrible panic attacks for many months. and tirelessly trying to meditate f…

> This is all just from physically/emotional painful experiences. So I guess just take with a grain of salt. But it's made huge differences in my physical/mental well-being.

Even perfectly 'healthy' human being will still have the layer of basic fear, whenever what he considers to be his core identity is under threat. In meditation everyone at some point needs to face it. So I wouldn't take what you're saying with a grain of salt - on the contrary, you may now have much greater clarity, as you had to be much more systematic and determined in your training.

I'd also love to hear more details about the tools you used. Are these consumer grade or hospital type of equipment?