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Re: Windows on New Macbook Pro Permanently Damages Speaker Due to Poor Drivers

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post #22

I think I am starting to get worried about the future of Apple. 2016 was a bad year. New iPhone has been the worst selling one in relative numbers since the iPhone. New MacBooks has several issues and controversial choices, while not bringing anything substantial to the table. New Watch changes are so small, nobody noticed an update.

The volume button placement opposite of the power button...

My Android phone has that and it's infuriating!

Re: Windows on New Macbook Pro Permanently Damages Speaker Due to Poor Drivers

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post #22

I think I am starting to get worried about the future of Apple. 2016 was a bad year. New iPhone has been the worst selling one in relative numbers since the iPhone. New MacBooks has several issues and controversial choices, while not bringing anything substantial to the table. New Watch changes are so small, nobody noticed an update.

The volume button placement opposite of the power button...

I've ranted about this to friends but they didn't get it. Glad to know I'm not alone on this!

Also the audio jack on the bottom: can no longer use headphones and prop the phone up on a desk when using FaceTime (which is surely a common use-case)

Re: Windows on New Macbook Pro Permanently Damages Speaker Due to Poor Drivers

#43

I think I am starting to get worried about the future of Apple. 2016 was a bad year. New iPhone has been the worst selling one in relative numbers since the iPhone. New MacBooks has several issues and controversial choices, while not bringing anything substantial to the table. New Watch changes are so small, nobody noticed an update.

>> "New iPhone has been the worst selling one in relative numbers since the iPhone.

1. What do you mean relative numbers?

2. Any stats to back this up, as I've seen conflicting data?

Regardless, of course it's not going to be a big seller. It's the 10th(?) generation of a device everybody already owns. It's also the third year running the design hasn't changed at all (presumably as they want to make a big splash on next years 10th anniversary).

As for the MacBook's, in my experience ordinary people don't really put all that much decision making into buying a computer. They want something that looks nice and almost any computer on the market has the power they need for Word, Facebook, and email. The touch bar is something all my non-tech friends think is really cool and makes them want a new MacBook.

The Watch update may not have amounted to much but you're completely ignoring watchOS 3 - that was huge. They managed to make a pretty crappy device really good with only a software update. Early adopters don't need to splash out another load of cash on a piece of hardware, they can get most of the benefit through a free software update.

While I agree there has been nothing mind blowing I also haven't seen anything mind blowing on an Android device or software update, a PC, or any wearable device. Also, I really struggle to find things that my iPhone/Mac don't do that I need them to do. What substantial new features did you seek from the new MacBook?

Re: Windows on New Macbook Pro Permanently Damages Speaker Due to Poor Drivers

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I think I am starting to get worried about the future of Apple. 2016 was a bad year. New iPhone has been the worst selling one in relative numbers since the iPhone. New MacBooks has several issues and controversial choices, while not bringing anything substantial to the table. New Watch changes are so small, nobody noticed an update.

Anecdotally, among my (20 something year old) friends, the iPhone used to be a must-have for many reasons; now, it's only a must-have for imessage. If android phones could send "blue texts" than I'm sure many would switch over.

Isn't WhatsApp widespread enough in your circles, as a IM replacement? I thought it was quite universal.

Or is it a particular feature of iMessage that WhatsApp is missing?

Re: Windows on New Macbook Pro Permanently Damages Speaker Due to Poor Drivers

#45
post #6

The amount of hardware issues with the new MBP are kinda staggering.... USB-C issues, GPU issues, image corruption, now this.

Has there been as contentious a Mac release as there has been with the new MBPs? I've been using Macs since the mid 80s, and I'm trying to think of some, but am drawing a blank. The only possibilities I can think of are the two processor switches (680x0 -> PPC followed by PPC -> Intel) or maybe the first release of OSX (but that's not necesarily hardware related).

Well Apple has had design defects in almost all of their products. (Most manufacturers do. If you know anyone who works at a repair shop, ask 'em)

The annoying part is Apple silently ignores defects for a while till it becomes unpopular not to. But yeah, Apple has had design defects in several Laptop cycles. over heating issues, hinge breakage, the infamous swollen battery, retina coating issues, etc etc.

Re: Windows on New Macbook Pro Permanently Damages Speaker Due to Poor Drivers

#46

I think I am starting to get worried about the future of Apple. 2016 was a bad year. New iPhone has been the worst selling one in relative numbers since the iPhone. New MacBooks has several issues and controversial choices, while not bringing anything substantial to the table. New Watch changes are so small, nobody noticed an update.

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Re: Windows on New Macbook Pro Permanently Damages Speaker Due to Poor Drivers

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Yeah, the GPU issues - but like you said they didn't manifest themselves right away. I got hit by the 2011 MBP issue a year or so in. I had to buy a new laptop because Apple didn't issue the repair order until well after my AppleCare expired and I wasn't going to pay $500+ for the repair not knowing whether Apple would eventually pick up the tab.

It took 4 years for the GPU in my 2011 MBP to die. Apple still covers GPU repairs on those models (or at least they did in 2015). They refused service on my laptop because I had upgraded the hard drive (to an SSD) and RAM (upgraded to 16 Gigs). I pointed out that the user's manual for the 2011 Macbook Pro specifically says that upgrading these components does not void the warranty for the entire machine, just that Ap…

Take them to small claims court. It's really easy and they will almost certainly settle rather than fight it.

Re: Windows on New Macbook Pro Permanently Damages Speaker Due to Poor Drivers

#48

I think I am starting to get worried about the future of Apple. 2016 was a bad year. New iPhone has been the worst selling one in relative numbers since the iPhone. New MacBooks has several issues and controversial choices, while not bringing anything substantial to the table. New Watch changes are so small, nobody noticed an update.

Just look at Android phones and tablets and non-Apple notebooks: Apple will be fine. (I'm an Android user).

Re: Windows on New Macbook Pro Permanently Damages Speaker Due to Poor Drivers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It took 4 years for the GPU in my 2011 MBP to die. Apple still covers GPU repairs on those models (or at least they did in 2015). They refused service on my laptop because I had upgraded the hard drive (to an SSD) and RAM (upgraded to 16 Gigs). I pointed out that the user's manual for the 2011 Macbook Pro specifically says that upgrading these components does not void the warranty for the entire machine, just that Ap…

I was in a very similar boat to you. Mine died right (weeks) after my AppleCare ended. Because a local authorized Apple dealer would fix it without an appointment (vs the local Apple Store), I took mine there. I did upgrades too, but I always keep my original RAM and HD in case I get a nitpicky tech. I stuffed those in there (with a fresh OS install) when I sent it for repair and had no issue. A friend of mine who ha…

In retrospect, keeping the original components would have been a good idea. In those 4 years I moved 3 times and the original components were lost to the ether somewhere in there.

Still, they should have honored what they promised in their manual. The fact that I even had to break out the manual (via PDF) is an annoyance. The representative's failure to honor that language, even as they readily admitted that yes, that was an official Apple manual, and the manual says I should be covered...but we're not going to cover this repair because we're not going to cover this repair...that was where I lost patience. I left the store and vowed to never buy another Apple product.

Re: Windows on New Macbook Pro Permanently Damages Speaker Due to Poor Drivers

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I think I am starting to get worried about the future of Apple. 2016 was a bad year. New iPhone has been the worst selling one in relative numbers since the iPhone. New MacBooks has several issues and controversial choices, while not bringing anything substantial to the table. New Watch changes are so small, nobody noticed an update.

This may be a little dark, but this year is the first time I've watched an Apple conference and thought, "Man...it's like Steve Jobs is dead or something..." It is like Apple has no idea what it's doing anymore, if you went back in time and showed me the latest Apple and Microsoft products side by side I don't know that I'd be able to connect the right name to the right products. I think we're entering a new era.
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