Even if not Italian, why on Earth would spaghetti bolognese be British? I've eaten them in many countries around Europe...
Italian or British? Writer solves riddle of spaghetti bolognese
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Re: Italian or British? Writer solves riddle of spaghetti bolognese
#12Interesting that restaurants focused on serving the dish with tagliatelle, in part because fresh pasta cooked faster ... fast food, not high cuisine. White tablecloths eat your heart out!
In the same spirit, I wonder if we will create a tagliatelle version for Infinite Food one day? http://8-food.com/
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#13Even if not Italian, why on Earth would spaghetti bolognese be British? I've eaten them in many countries around Europe...
that's right, they are american. Sicilian immigrants could barely afford beef in their native Sicily, so when they started having a little more money in their pockets in America, they started adding beef to everything. Which is where spaghetti with meatballs comes from as well. No italian has ever had spaghetti with meatballs.
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#14Even if not Italian, why on Earth would spaghetti bolognese be British? I've eaten them in many countries around Europe...
that's right, they are american. Sicilian immigrants could barely afford beef in their native Sicily, so when they started having a little more money in their pockets in America, they started adding beef to everything. Which is where spaghetti with meatballs comes from as well. No italian has ever had spaghetti with meatballs.
Re: Italian or British? Writer solves riddle of spaghetti bolognese
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
alla = "a type of seasoning/condiment/cooking" Examples: Pasta alla carbonara Pizza alla marinara Trenette al pesto
Let's note that grammatically 'alla', 'al', etc. is 'at/in/towards' + 'the', but in this idiomatic use gives the meaning in the parent comment.
In this particular use (for bolognese or pescatora, amatriciana, etc.) "a/al/alla" means "in the style of", BUT when it is pasta al ragù (al pesto, al pomodoro, etc., i.e. other main ingredients) the "a/al/alla" means "with".
And we have also our own exceptions, one says "Pappardelle sul cinghiale" (pappardelle is yet another type of pasta), literally "pappardelle on the hog", BUT you don't have the "a" in "spaghetti aglio e olio (e peperoncino)".
As a side note a "ragù" has nothing to do with the (usually horrible) tomato sauce that is used for "spaghetti bolognese" outside Italy.
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#16Re: Italian or British? Writer solves riddle of spaghetti bolognese
#17I've always found it interesting how native American foods (tomatoes, potatoes, peanuts, chilis, corn, strawberry, pineapple, etc.) have been integrated into "traditional" cuisines around the world. Italian spaghetti sauce or Thai peanut sauce, etc. have only been available for a few hundred years max... Still a lot, but some other traditions go back millennia.
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#18I've always found it interesting how native American foods (tomatoes, potatoes, peanuts, chilis, corn, strawberry, pineapple, etc.) have been integrated into "traditional" cuisines around the world. Italian spaghetti sauce or Thai peanut sauce, etc. have only been available for a few hundred years max... Still a lot, but some other traditions go back millennia.
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#19I've always found it interesting how native American foods (tomatoes, potatoes, peanuts, chilis, corn, strawberry, pineapple, etc.) have been integrated into "traditional" cuisines around the world. Italian spaghetti sauce or Thai peanut sauce, etc. have only been available for a few hundred years max... Still a lot, but some other traditions go back millennia.
A lot of really old recipes, say, those dating to the roman era or even only the renaissance, are very unpalatable for modern tastes.
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#20Even if not Italian, why on Earth would spaghetti bolognese be British? I've eaten them in many countries around Europe...
that's right, they are american. Sicilian immigrants could barely afford beef in their native Sicily, so when they started having a little more money in their pockets in America, they started adding beef to everything. Which is where spaghetti with meatballs comes from as well. No italian has ever had spaghetti with meatballs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italians_in_the_United_Kingdom