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Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Does not come in 15 inch.

Sure it does: http://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MJLQ2L...

If you look at the product code in the link (MJLQ2LL) and check it against the list of MacBook Pro models[0], you'll see that it's a 2015 model. There aren't any 15" 2016 models without a touch bar.

[0]: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201300

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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post #32

If you're used to the Mac's "force app to quit" Command-Option-Esc shortcut, it won't work from the touchbar if the app is unresponsive: https://twitter.com/technosucks/status/800831482608484352 "You might not be able to use the Esc button in the Touch Bar if the app you're using becomes unresponsive." https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT207358 Fortunately you can still force the Mac to shut down with the Touch ID butt…

Remapping Caps Lock to ESC might resolve that. Enabling this remap is certainly the first thing I'll do when mine shows up.

It will. I have remapped Caps Lock to Escape and I can trigger Force Quit that way (Cmd+Alt+Caps Lock)

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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While, over time, a lot of today's annoyances with the new Macabook's will fade away, the lack of ESC key is a deal breaker for me. I tried it at the Apple Store and it's pretty much unusable. (It had the seen issue as the writer, apparently relying on the physical click to know whether or not I had pressed it. In addition, I also mistyped it a lot. Maybe hack to replace the whole touch bar as one single ESC key will…

> I've been told to remap the ESC to CAPS LOCK to vim usage, but I seem to be one of a rare breed who uses the latter the way it was intended to be, so that's a no go for me. Not really relevant, but when Vi was originally developed, the escape key was in a more convenient location — right where the tab key is now. It was never intended for users to have to reach that far to hit such an essential key. https://en.wiki…

> I seem to be one of a rare breed who uses the latter the way it was intended to be

I am intrigued; what's your use case that requires so much uppercase text?

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

#194
post #9

We bought a 15" 2016 Macbook Pro ("Retina" is redundant; there are no 2016 MBPs that lack a Retina display.) We also bought a LG 27UD88-W monitor to go with it. (It's one of the few that has a USB-C input.) I have to say, I'm really impressed by the single-cable solution. The monitor charges the laptop (57W maximum, which is less than the Apple charger, but "good enough"), and the laptop sends both video and USB peri…

>When the display goes to sleep, it disconnects all the devices on the hub. This is a problem for external disks, as the OS complains that it has been detached without being ejected first. I hope LG fixes this in a future firmware version. Is there a monitor that doesn't suffer this issue? My Dell's USB hub power is linked to the monitor power. I can't plug a mouse into the monitor if I want to use that mouse to wake…

My Philips bdm4065uc Doesn't seem to have this issue, or, at least, I've never noticed a problem waking my Mac by wiggling the mouse connected to it.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Sure it does: http://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MJLQ2L...

If you look at the product code in the link (MJLQ2LL) and check it against the list of MacBook Pro models[0], you'll see that it's a 2015 model. There aren't any 15" 2016 models without a touch bar. [0]: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201300

I didn't realize that, thanks. Just ruined my Christmas gift to myself.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Hopefully I can save you some frustration. If you got the TB2 dongle, it won't work. Apple suggests you purchase a third party DisplayPort dongle. Make sure it's DisplayPort 1.2 (that's what lets you do 4k@60Hz). No advice on what to buy though; except check the reviews to make sure it works on the 2016 MBP! (_NOT_ the MacBook! Compatibility with the MacBook means nothing.)

Thanks. @sandipc above linked to this[1] monoprice cable, but it's out of stock with no ETA. :( I'll keep looking. [1] http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=12908

This one should work as well: https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_to_displayport_c...

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

#197

A big caveat I have is that the SSD is soldered directly to the logic board. I've used a single Macbook for stretches of 4-5 years at points and I've had to pull out the HD when the logic board has died... seems really sad that I'd be tied to Apple's support in the event I need to access data to use on another machine when previously it was something I could solve in 15 minutes.

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Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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post #55

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I picked up a new MBP and I have to say I do like the Touch Bar. It's certainly not a must-have, but Apple's implementation is pretty polished. My favorite use is music/volume control. I can control music from both iTunes and a buried YouTube Safari tab at the same time through the Touch Bar.

How is that different from pressing Fn + F keys before?

Not sure why you were downvoted. Actually it works with Fn + F, too.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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post #173

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You can get C-c to be pretty much identical with a little remap :imap Remapping caps lock would be good too, but I already have caps lock remapped to Ctrl and I'm just used to that. In anticipation of what seemed like the inevitable loss of my escape key, I've been trying really really hard to like Ctrl-[ the last three weeks, but I've just given up. I keep opening up Ctrl-P searches or hitting Ctrl-]. My pinky just…

I aslo remap caps to ctrl everywhere. For vim, you can map tab to being your new esc. Chances are you are using expandtab option, so actual tab usage is not big (it exists though, left here as an exercise for a reader ) Anyway im moving to kabylake dell xps 13. After 9 years with apple. Windows from 2016 gives much better linux integration. And its good to challenge yourselfe with such a big change every 10 years. It…

In addition to considering a 2015 MBP refurb, I am also thinking about an XPS 15.

I find Windows 10 to be an enormous improvement over 7 and 8; they finally fixed some of the stupid little things that have been issues since NT 3.1. Like the awful terminal emulator or the dialog box for editing environment variables. It seems like Microsoft is finally being run by someone who cares about details.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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post #45

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My understanding is that it's specifically the thunderbolt-2 adapter that doesn't support further adapting to other alternate mode mechanisms. This might be because of incompatibilities between TB2 and TB3/USB3.1 alternate mode implementations? It doesn't mean it can't do DP over a specific type-c to DP cable/dongle, which presumably are or will be a thing (eg: https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_to_displaypo…

There are USB-C to DisplayPort cables. You need some sort of converting cable anyway--the old MBP had Mini DisplayPort and I've never seen a monitor with a MiniDP input.

My Philips bdm4065uc has both DP and mDP.
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