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Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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post #54

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I use jk to exit from insert mode, but you still need an escape key to cancel actions when entering commands. For example if I type :wq and decide I actually don't want to quit, I still need to hit Esc to cancel. It would be nice if :wqjk (or :wqfd) would allow you to cancel but I don't think that's possible is it?

very possible! :cnoremap jk

Whoo! Thank you very much!

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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post #9

We bought a 15" 2016 Macbook Pro ("Retina" is redundant; there are no 2016 MBPs that lack a Retina display.) We also bought a LG 27UD88-W monitor to go with it. (It's one of the few that has a USB-C input.) I have to say, I'm really impressed by the single-cable solution. The monitor charges the laptop (57W maximum, which is less than the Apple charger, but "good enough"), and the laptop sends both video and USB peri…

Have you guys tried using this monitor with a Windows Notebook like the XPS 13 or 15? I wonder how the intercompatibility is between the "for Apple" branded LG Monitors and the Standard USB-C TB3 Devices.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Its a $2500 laptop. Apple should ship the cable.

If I buy a $2500 flight I get a toothbrush, why does the $2500 macbook not come with a toothbrush? Edit: In case it wasn't obvious to the readers, the reason behind the missing toothbrush and missing USB-C 3.1 cable are the same. Who the hell expects a toothbrush with their laptop? Or a random USB cable in that matter?

The toothbrush has a single purpose. The cable could be used to charge and to transfer data. It can't be used for the second case for no good reason apart of saving a couple bucks per box. I'm pretty sure Jobs wouldn't have it.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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I would say "courage" but I am pretty sure I'd get down voted to invisible pretty quick. Monitors last a very long time. I think maybe that wasn't taken into much consideration.

The thing that kills me is how many add-ons you have to buy on day one just to support any peripherals you've got. It's OK that Apple has bet big on USB-C/TB3, but the least thing Apple could have done (this year at least) is throw in a couple of USB-C to USB-A adapters in the box. When I bought a Macbook Pro in 2011, the only thing I needed to buy were some miniDP -> [hdmi/dvi/vga] adapters. The standard set of port…

> throw in a couple of USB-C to USB-A adapters in the box.

How do you expect Apple to sell them for $20 a pop then?

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

#145
post #8

While, over time, a lot of today's annoyances with the new Macabook's will fade away, the lack of ESC key is a deal breaker for me. I tried it at the Apple Store and it's pretty much unusable. (It had the seen issue as the writer, apparently relying on the physical click to know whether or not I had pressed it. In addition, I also mistyped it a lot. Maybe hack to replace the whole touch bar as one single ESC key will…

I've always found Ctrl-[ to be more intuitive instead of ESC for vim. Strangely enough I have no idea where I saw that Ctrl-[ works as an alternative and I don't see any reference to it in my vimrc so it should work out of the box. Having to move your left hand all the way over to esc is just slow and cumbersome, meanwhile [ is just right there.

^[ is what ESC sends to a terminal, so CTRL-[ and ESC are equivalent.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Before it was announced I was 100% sure going to grab a new MacBook Pro but now I find myself looking at refurbished 2015 models.

Why not the 2016 model without TouchBar?

Also super expensive, I don't think performance is much different so you're really choosing between form factors and price I think.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

#147

It is starting to feel like the "Pro" is actually more of a consumer toy for gaming and messing with Facebook rather than a real professional machine. I need to buy a new laptop today. For development, not to play games. The unix underpinning of MacOS always made their machines attractive, expensive, but attractive nonetheless. I'll go visit the Apple store and see but it is starting to look like it'll be a waste of…

Unless you absolutely need the laptop today, don't get something from BB. They're really not known for selling quality PC laptops. Go online and get something like an XPS or Thinkpad.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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post #127
post #36

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> I've been told to remap the ESC to CAPS LOCK to vim usage, but I seem to be one of a rare breed who uses the latter the way it was intended to be, so that's a no go for me. Not really relevant, but when Vi was originally developed, the escape key was in a more convenient location — right where the tab key is now. It was never intended for users to have to reach that far to hit such an essential key. https://en.wiki…

> Edit: also, Control-c and control-[ do the same thing. They're not actually the same. C-[ is the same as Esc but C-c is not. Using C-c to leave Insert mode won't trigger InsertLeave. If you select a vertical visual block and insert a comma at the end of each line E.g. C-v}$A, Using Esc or C-[ to leave insert mode will insert the comma at the end of every line in the paragraph but using C-c will only insert after th…

You can get C-c to be pretty much identical with a little remap

:imap

Remapping caps lock would be good too, but I already have caps lock remapped to Ctrl and I'm just used to that. In anticipation of what seemed like the inevitable loss of my escape key, I've been trying really really hard to like Ctrl-[ the last three weeks, but I've just given up. I keep opening up Ctrl-P searches or hitting Ctrl-]. My pinky just can't do it. So I've given up and made Ctrl-C work and it's so much better.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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post #91

Wifi problems on a MBP again? For fuck's sake... I'll probably make do with what I have for a bit longer or find a 2015 refurb. Or go all bohemian and spin up linux on a chromebook.

They actually reverted back to 2x2 MIMO for the wifi cards. The previous generation 13" had 3x3 MIMO (antennas), now the new one has 2x2 MIMO. So less theoretical maximum speed.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

#150

Any serious developer worth his salt is not going to put up with the utter shit the new MB(P) are. I know they're catering to "media" types but for any engineer who also happens to be a 10x and well rounded, doing art, music and other fields will feel constrained. Apple has left the golden middle ground a long time ago and is going after the "media" types only. News flash: the margins in those youtubers-sectors are v…

Apple has left the golden middle ground a long time ago and is going after the "media" types only. News flash: the margins in those youtubers-sectors are very low, hence the spending will dry sooner rather then later. I don't think that this is a very good good laptop for media-youtuber types either. Just watch Casey Neistat's review of the new rMBP. He really wants to like it, but it's really clear from what he's sa…

Haha.

Well color me surprised.

Now I really don't know which target market they're trying to aim for, cause where I'm standing it's a net miss, aside from the millennial generation which isn't a bread winning one for the most part.

Maybe I'm not seeing their big picture, but as far as I'm concerned, A net producer from technical to art, this machine is a fail.

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