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2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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The problems with the new macbook "pro" seem to keep on growing. I am really surprised that Apple did not find the connecting to external display issue in internal testing.

I'm somewhat surprised by the whole touch bar thing, other manufacturers (e.g. Lenovo on the X1) tried it before and use acceptance was miserable.

It's actually a nice to have feature, but at least not yet, not a must have. Just having Touch ID makes it worth it to me.

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Not supporting DisplayPort with an adapter is just insane. Apple's new top-end laptop is incompatible with the most common way to connect external monitors? I've been willing to give Apple and the new MBP the benefit of the doubt on this stuff, and in particular I don't mind that it needs dongles now if that means we get universal USB-C adoption faster. But the dongles need to actually exist and work now!

My understanding is that it's specifically the thunderbolt-2 adapter that doesn't support further adapting to other alternate mode mechanisms. This might be because of incompatibilities between TB2 and TB3/USB3.1 alternate mode implementations? It doesn't mean it can't do DP over a specific type-c to DP cable/dongle, which presumably are or will be a thing (eg: https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_to_displaypo…

You're correct on both counts: Apple suggested I purchased such a dongle. Unfortunately, as per the post, that's not easy; most USB-C devices currently available don't work. I'm holding out specifically for rMBP2016-compatible devices; and it seems a little silly not to wait for a dock now and get the tempting one-cable experience.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Not supporting DisplayPort with an adapter is just insane. Apple's new top-end laptop is incompatible with the most common way to connect external monitors? I've been willing to give Apple and the new MBP the benefit of the doubt on this stuff, and in particular I don't mind that it needs dongles now if that means we get universal USB-C adoption faster. But the dongles need to actually exist and work now!

My understanding is that it's specifically the thunderbolt-2 adapter that doesn't support further adapting to other alternate mode mechanisms. This might be because of incompatibilities between TB2 and TB3/USB3.1 alternate mode implementations? It doesn't mean it can't do DP over a specific type-c to DP cable/dongle, which presumably are or will be a thing (eg: https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_to_displaypo…

There are USB-C to DisplayPort cables. You need some sort of converting cable anyway--the old MBP had Mini DisplayPort and I've never seen a monitor with a MiniDP input.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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He has a brand new display (which in displays, is Display DisplayPort-to-mDP2 TB 3 to 2 USB-C to TB 3 MacBook What is going on?

I would say "courage" but I am pretty sure I'd get down voted to invisible pretty quick.

Monitors last a very long time. I think maybe that wasn't taken into much consideration.

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We bought a 15" 2016 Macbook Pro ("Retina" is redundant; there are no 2016 MBPs that lack a Retina display.) We also bought a LG 27UD88-W monitor to go with it. (It's one of the few that has a USB-C input.) I have to say, I'm really impressed by the single-cable solution. The monitor charges the laptop (57W maximum, which is less than the Apple charger, but "good enough"), and the laptop sends both video and USB peri…

Why doesn't the Apple-supplied USB charging cable work?

Not all USB-C connectors are created equal. Something with that connector can support or not support a number of protocols, e.g. USB, Thunderbolt 3, USB-C power throughput, etc.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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He has a brand new display (which in displays, is Display DisplayPort-to-mDP2 TB 3 to 2 USB-C to TB 3 MacBook What is going on?

I've been a mac user for 12 years, have my current retina macbook for 4 years, consider myself a pro user and want to buy a new "mobile computer". I'm no longer considering buying an apple macbook. OS X is great but with these prices I can no longer validate it's value anymore and looking into buying an xps.

I would love to see Dell publish some XPS figures before and after the new MBP announcement. I see a lot of people say they're considering one.
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