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SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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Re: SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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Here is the part you missed: "Optical inter-satellite links permit flexible routing of traffic on-orbit."

It's still EM radiation. Takes the same amount of time to propagate between two points in a vacuum. Line of sight optical in space is going to be very difficult. Even relativistic effects need to be considered at very high frequencies as they can cause phase shifts. Managing that on a mesh hurts my head.

Thought you meant ground re-routing, I am the one who read you initial comment too fast, and missed the mesh part. Anyway, what makes you think that routing at such a low orbit should be significantly slower than ground-routing?

Re: SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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In the article it says that it's because of the current deployment of satellites being at 22k miles high. Tesla plans to launch the satellites at a range of 715-823 miles which will reduce the latency to 25-35ms.

tiny lol at "Tesla plans to launch the satellites..." Guess I'm not the only one who makes this mistake from time to time :)

I had to re-read it like 5 times to know what I did wrong. LOL.

Re: SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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> he FBI has required US ISPs to censor them from their DNS servers. That's a pretty serious statement, the government threatens infrastructure providers all the time but I haven't heard of the FBI requiring ISP level censorship of DNS. > I’ve had this occur quite a few times now that 8.8.8.8 (yes, verified with DNSSEC to be the real one) and DNS servers of US ISPs returned different IPs than the authoritative namese…

> That's a pretty serious statement, the government threatens infrastructure providers all the time but I haven't heard of the FBI requiring ISP level censorship of DNS. It’s not unheard of the FBI just storming into data centers, seizing entire racks, just because some of the systems in them might be connected to piracy sites. > Can you give some examples? I’m sorry, I know this will undermine the credibility of the…

> It’s not unheard of the FBI just storming into data centers, seizing entire racks, just because some of the systems in them might be connected to piracy sites.

Indeed, they regularly force cooperation by telling the accused that they will seize their hardware for forensic analysis and then drop them to the bottom of the priority queue.

> I’m sorry, I know this will undermine the credibility of the statement, but I won’t link to content where linking to it can potentially be a crime on here. Sorry.

I think you misunderstand how the law works (at least in the US). I suggest you read this guide put out by the ACLU[0].

[0] https://www.eff.org/wp/iaal-what-peer-peer-developers-need-k...

Re: SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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Google and Facebook are experimenting with drones, balloons, etc. to deliver Internet to their next billion customers, who live in impoverished areas with little network infrastructure. If it works, this seems like a much more attractive solution.

Re: SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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> he FBI has required US ISPs to censor them from their DNS servers. That's a pretty serious statement, the government threatens infrastructure providers all the time but I haven't heard of the FBI requiring ISP level censorship of DNS. > I’ve had this occur quite a few times now that 8.8.8.8 (yes, verified with DNSSEC to be the real one) and DNS servers of US ISPs returned different IPs than the authoritative namese…

Here's an example from the FBI website itself, announcing the seizure of 150 websites by taking over control of their domain name: https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/washingtondc/press-release...

Yes, I've seen those and FOIA'd for the rest (no luck). But this isn't the same as forcing ISPs to censor specific websites.

Re: SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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Somehow calling the chief political adviser to the most powerful person in the world-elect "fringe" doesn't seem accurate. Perhaps corporate media has defined the Overton window for so long that we've come to believe that they speak for the mainstream, even when millions of people send a clear message that that is not true.

Hitler and Lenin were fringe. I don't see a contradiction between fringe and power. > Perhaps corporate media ... There is so much confusion packed into that statement, it's hard to respond. All I'll say is that the election was in no way a mandate for racism. And why would anyone want to argue that it was?

Lenin, whose politics set the course of a world power for nearly a century, was fringe? What's your definition of fringe? "Things you disagree with"?

Bannon was Trump's adviser during his campaign and even before that, Trump's statements were consistent with Bannon's and Breitbart's. Whether those statements were racist is a debate that's been held a thousand times and is not worth rehashing.

Re: SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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Am I the only one that thinks Elon Musk is scattered and overextended? Literally a new grand idea every few months..

He is a snake oil salesman for geek millionaires.

the snake oil that does 300 miles on a single charge,

or the snake oil that lands on a barge from orbit?

Re: SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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> I suspect this is just a phase. ... Internet culture is still very young Maybe, but if so it's not like a phase of the moon, which changes on its own. This phase will only pass if we do something to make that happen.

Thankfully, old people die. No active action required.

Too bad for all the people that suffer in the meantime. Said one smart person:

... this long run is a misleading guide to current affairs. In the long run we are all dead. Economists [and everyone else] set themselves too easy, too useless a task, if in tempestuous seasons they can only tell us, that when the storm is long past, the ocean is flat again.

Re: SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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> I'd hardly call white nationalism fringe I'd absolutely call it fringe. It has a very tiny base of support. It is also on the political extreme - far to the right of the mainstream.

I see, so you think Trump's attorney general pick is a good choice? That's the guy who once said the KKK was OK until they started smoking marijuana. Is the attorney general just a fringe position in the government? It'll be fun to see if this AG convinces the DEA to enforce federal marijuana laws on the states where it's legal. Fun meaning, I think there's a lot of dissonance on both sides just how much acrimony thi…

I'm not sure what your point is, but he said the KKK was ok around 30-40 years ago, and later disavowed it saying he was joking. In a era of much greater discrimination, that behavior and more like it cost him an appointment as a federal judge. And that incident, from 30-40 years ago, is seen as so bad that people are bringing it up again. I think that demonstrates how fringe those attitudes are - they certainly are not acceptable to the great majority of Americans. If he said it again now, his career would end in milliseconds.

Outside the racism, I agree that he is very conservative, in a way that used to be fringe, which has little support now, but is widely accepted as normalized. That, I strongly feel, is a serious error by us, the public.

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