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The psychology of stress and burnout

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Re: The psychology of stress and burnout

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some people are weak decision makers in real life.

Others just lack options...

And what we just witnessed were two fundamentally different ideologies, often at the root of the conflict between republicans and democrats. It's the "strong father" vs. "nurturing mother" dispositions.

Re: The psychology of stress and burnout

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I love how people are like "go for a walk" or "work out" or "sleep more" or "it's all in your head" (maybe you should tell someone who has pancreatic cancer "Oh it's all in your belly"). It seems to me like most people don't understand the incredible destructiveness and pain of an actual burnout. How trapped you are and how you do not see any way out anymore. I nearly got there and I have seen people who have been cr…

Given, that the body still functions,

> "go for a walk" or "work out" or "sleep more"

is actually sound advice to bring back normality. "Fake it until you make it" is part of recovering and becoming a "normal person" again. Those "normal people" giving you the advice catch depression like one catches a cold. They suffer for three days and then it vanishes again and the sun begins to rise in the moring. They don't understand the concept of eternal darkness and slow but steady decay while being still technically alive.

In order to recover the source of the illness needs to be cut out from ones body and life, whatever the source is. Sometimes (often) it's not even obvious.

Yes, you are in pain, yes, you are broken, yes, you cannot go back to your old life. But there might be a new life you can evolve into. You probably have to let go of things you hold dearly. Habits, people, substances, part of your senses, part of your body, your goals, your beliefs, etc. whatever it is that makes you sick.

Re: The psychology of stress and burnout

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The real problem I see, and experience myself, is a form of addiction to stress whereby one's cortisol levels eventually raise one's baseline. This translates into a need for more stress to reach the baseline, which is perceived as the resting-point. This is achieved easily with quick acting hormones boost such as adrenaline (base jumping...) but just perpetuates the problem as it does nothing to lower the baseline... Similarly, one can also counter cortisol with other hormones, such as oxytocin (love, music), serotonin (empathy, pride) or endorphins (exercise) or trick the system with mimicking substances, but that won't solve the problem either. There are also available options to lower the cortisol baseline (e.g. phosphorylated serine) but I am afraid that the only way to achieve a permanent normalization is a change in lifestyle. Even if a profession is stressful in itself (e.g. restaurant/bakery) it might not be as stress-inducing to me as it is to you. Reasons for these individual differences are complex and not easily solvable. No silver bullet. Cortisol can be measured easily with saliva tests. If these levels are high, including at night, you're stressed out, that you feel so or not.

Re: The psychology of stress and burnout

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It's all in your head, for better or worse. Extreme sports or intense physical exertion have been key, for me, in dealing with daily stress. And no, I'm not some superstar adrenaline pumped athlete, just an amateur that loves skydiving/paragliding/fast motorcycles/hiking/etc over the weekend. I didn't realize how much these activities help me, until I had to take a break from them for whatever reason (e.g.: winter wh…

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Re: The psychology of stress and burnout

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What is it that burns you out most? (fellow freelancer here)

The thing that burns me out about freelance is the client just views you as a cost center. Always want more work in less time. I start to fantasize about the "camaraderie" of being on a team. Maybe there needs to be a Freelancer's Local Union.

I found reframing myself as a vendor (and small business owner) rather than a freelancer changed everything.

Re: The psychology of stress and burnout

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post #101

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What is it that burns you out most? (fellow freelancer here)

The thing that burns me out about freelance is the client just views you as a cost center. Always want more work in less time. I start to fantasize about the "camaraderie" of being on a team. Maybe there needs to be a Freelancer's Local Union.

It's gone quiet of late but The Remote Together Slack group [1] is a great place to chat if you're working on your own.

  [1]: https://remotetogether.slack.com

Re: The psychology of stress and burnout

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Sounds like your company cares more about their bottom line than your well being.

Wait there's another kind?

The only other kind is the company that realizes a healthy work-life balance and solid benefits helps them retain talent for the long term. Not many companies do that, but I have some acquaintances that work at one of them (SAS).

Re: The psychology of stress and burnout

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It's all in your head, for better or worse. Extreme sports or intense physical exertion have been key, for me, in dealing with daily stress. And no, I'm not some superstar adrenaline pumped athlete, just an amateur that loves skydiving/paragliding/fast motorcycles/hiking/etc over the weekend. I didn't realize how much these activities help me, until I had to take a break from them for whatever reason (e.g.: winter wh…

I've found the same outlet in racing cars, soccer, and working out. I've actually told people before that I think the reason racing helps so much is that you are absolutely 100% focused on the task at hand when you're being the wheel, which means no work or personal stress at all for the time you're on the track. Soccer is one of the few things I do that allows me to interact with people in a completely different pro…

My weekly 5-a-side football game is definitely one of the things I miss from working in an office.

Re: The psychology of stress and burnout

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It's all in your head, for better or worse. Extreme sports or intense physical exertion have been key, for me, in dealing with daily stress. And no, I'm not some superstar adrenaline pumped athlete, just an amateur that loves skydiving/paragliding/fast motorcycles/hiking/etc over the weekend. I didn't realize how much these activities help me, until I had to take a break from them for whatever reason (e.g.: winter wh…

I've had similar, but not with skydiving. I've only done one dive, and it was pleasant, lovely view, but did absolutely nothing for me in terms of adrenaline, at all. What did work for me was commuting by cycle in London, flat out race with everything for 10km. Legs burning, drop the temperature, maybe some snow in the eyes, bring on the elements. Great stuff. Winter is great for that, cold at first, but ride hard, w…

Cycling the streets of London, yes! I loved that. Did a Putney to Canary Wharf commute for about 6 years. Weaving in between traffic that's stuck fast is wonderful.

Even when I got a soaking it didn't really matter, you get so wet you can't get much wetter and then get home and have a warm shower.

It was also a great way of getting rid of tension. If you're angry you pedal harder and go faster which is more fun, so breaks any vicious cycle.

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