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SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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Re: SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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Latency Math (Almost 100ms faster then current technology)

EDIT: This is only one way

ALSO Grace Hopper telling David Letterman what a nano second is! https://youtu.be/1-vcErOPofQ?t=4m26s

1 Nanosecond = distance light travels one foot

1 mile = 5260 nanoseconds (In a vacuum)

Current Satellite Internet = 22,000 miles or 115720000 Nano Seconds = 115.72 ms

SpaceX Low Orbit = 715 to 823 Miles

823 miles = 4328980 nano seconds = 4.3 ms

Re: SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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post #261

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That's actually a myth, since the GPS satellites all experience a similar relativistic time skew. http://www.alternativephysics.org/book/GPSmythology.htm "The presence of Special and General Relativity effects has no bearing on the accuracy of GPS operation. In summary, it wouldn’t matter whether clocks aboard GPS satellites ran faster or slower than Earth’s clocks or even changed their speed each day. Just so long a…

That page constructs its own argument and then deconstructs it. It doesn't actually disprove the OP's statement. The reason that GR and SR have "no bearing" is because they've already been designed into the system... From "Understanding the NAVSTAR" 2nd Edition, by Tom Logsdon ( one of the designers of the system ) the time-dilation is compensated through: 1. Off-setting the clock ticking-rate during manufacture of e…

That's the one. There's pages one can get from Google with some of the data and illustrations if they can't get the book. It tripped me out when I found out they had to design relativity into it.

Re: SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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Latency Math (Almost 100ms faster then current technology) EDIT: This is only one way ALSO Grace Hopper telling David Letterman what a nano second is! https://youtu.be/1-vcErOPofQ?t=4m26s 1 Nanosecond = distance light travels one foot 1 mile = 5260 nanoseconds (In a vacuum) Current Satellite Internet = 22,000 miles or 115720000 Nano Seconds = 115.72 ms SpaceX Low Orbit = 715 to 823 Miles 823 miles = 4328980 nano seco…

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Re: SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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post #132

Am I the only one that thinks Elon Musk is scattered and overextended? Literally a new grand idea every few months..

He is a snake oil salesman for geek millionaires.

I'd argue that he's a practical visionary and an inspiration.

Re: SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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Free, global internet access is the next step toward a smarter, more progressive planet. I don't even care about the speed - if the only thing users could access was wikipedia, I'd still personally donate to the project. I cannot emphasize how important democratizing knowledge is to me (and many others).

Spreading true (well, at least less wrong) information is a noble goal. Unfortunately, I'm not sure we're not seeing such information availability providing avenues towards a smarter, more progressive planet. Instead, the internet seems to be helping people create cocoons of ignorance and "evidence" to support even the most specious claims - such as the world being flat. Knowledge does not seem to be enough. Wisdom a…

And I assume you or someone you know should be in charge of what is considered smart and progressive wisdom? No thanks, history has shown us that is the wrong direction, set it all free (as in freedom, not beer...unless you want/can) and let the public decide.

Re: SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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Free, global internet access is the next step toward a smarter, more progressive planet. I don't even care about the speed - if the only thing users could access was wikipedia, I'd still personally donate to the project. I cannot emphasize how important democratizing knowledge is to me (and many others).

Sadly, this is a naive view, and perpetuated by people who wants to push more ad channels in the name of "empowering" communities... Access to information does not mean consumption. If you give access to internet to 100 people, 99 of them will use it for Facebook or Porn. 1. If you have enough motivation, learning about anything was already possible even before Internet (local libraries and resources) 2. If you don't…

One day people will grok that this "addictive/useless chitchat" is not good for them for any number of reasons. But in no way should anyone decide for anyone else how they should spend their time. You could empower thousands in the way you suggest and still end up with hundreds that simply just want to just go do a goods day of work and come home to family, beer and video games.

Providing access to the Internet will make a difference, because right now its gated and walled by every country on this planet...give me and the rest of the world direct satellite uplink sooner than later.

Re: SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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post #391

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, what you are looking at is a giant cardboard cutout held up by thousands of Mylar helium balloons and pulled by a herd of cats connected with fishing line. It also explains the "super moon" effect; the cutout actually is closer, and therefore larger, when the helium supplies start to run low every few months or years. #learneditontheweb /s

You can't herd cats. theory debunked

Documented proof you can:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8

#internetTruth

Re: SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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post #393

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>Free, Not free according to Musk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHeZHyOnsm4&t=12m37s > Well it can't be free. Because then we'll, like, we'll go out of business. [laugh] > No, no, it can't be free to the user. I don't think so. > This would be... this would cost a lot to build. Ultimately over time to build the full version of the system, we're talking about something that would be 10 or 15 billion dollars to crea…

>And this is intended to generate a significant amount of revenue You gotta appreciate the honesty. It is so unusual that we still look at this trying to see the angles.

One of the good impressions that I get from Musk: Money does not seem to be his goal, but rather a side-effect of good technology. Unlike a lot of other people who seem to use good technology as a means of achieving money. He seems genuinely eager to get projects started and self-sustainable so that they can outlive him and push humanity forward.

Re: SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spreading true (well, at least less wrong) information is a noble goal. Unfortunately, I'm not sure we're not seeing such information availability providing avenues towards a smarter, more progressive planet. Instead, the internet seems to be helping people create cocoons of ignorance and "evidence" to support even the most specious claims - such as the world being flat. Knowledge does not seem to be enough. Wisdom a…

You're right: Knowledge shouldn't be the end goal, but I think you're overstating the effect of fringe communities on the internet. Consider that for many people on Earth, getting access to the internet takes them from the knowledge shared amongst the members of their community to the collective knowledge of world. That's quite a leap, and I'd argue that having to read flat-earther nonsense once in a while is a price…

The internet is just allowing us to do the same things we've always done, but to scale. Pre-internet humans learned from each other, and there was a lot of mis-information then, just as there is now. Most people just weren't exposed to all of it. Now we're drinking from the firehose and that is scary, as it should be.

Now that everyone can communicate on the same system, the next issue to figure out is how to pick up the good bits and filter out the bad bits. But consolidating all that information (onto the internet) is a great way to start doing that.

Re: SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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You were probably witnessing normal DNS propagation after the authoritative name servers had been changed. Keep in mind that the nameserver data you see in "whois" may not be up to date. When a site is seized, law enforcement goes direct to the registry (GLTD operator, such as Verisign), not the registrar. See http://domainincite.com/2766-icann-had-no-role-in-seizing-to... for an example

For 2 years? The authoritative nameservers still return the original IP, I can still access the site from anywhere in the world except the US.

That's different. Can you share the domain? I run my own name servers.
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