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Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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That's how democracy works. Are you against democracy?

There's a difference between democracy and ochlocracy ("mob rule").

It's democracy (with a small d) when I agree with it, ochlocracy when I don't?

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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A similar law is about to pass in my country and we are 15 weeks away from elections. I believe the targets are FB and Twitter. So what is my best bet to rollout a Twitter clone fast and host it in-house? Impossible?

The magic of Facebook, Twitter, etc are not the technologies. Sure, as they grow, they need more elegant than off-the-shelf solutions. But hacking together a Twitter clone in a week is the easy part - getting people to use it, building a community, etc, is the hard part.

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

#164

A similar law is about to pass in my country and we are 15 weeks away from elections. I believe the targets are FB and Twitter. So what is my best bet to rollout a Twitter clone fast and host it in-house? Impossible?

The magic of Facebook, Twitter, etc are not the technologies. Sure, as they grow, they need more elegant than off-the-shelf solutions. But hacking together a Twitter clone in a week is the easy part - getting people to use it, building a community, etc, is the hard part.

The hardest part is that once your Twitter clone functions well enough to replace Twitter it will be banned just the same.

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

#165

As a Russian citizen, I used LinkedIn heavily to find jobs in Europe (along with stackoverflow.com/jobs). I keep a lot of contacts there (e.g. former colleagues and European recruiters, some of them are very helpful). I found it's alarming that LinkedIn is blocked in Russia. Blocking LinkedIn significantly reduces chances to find a job in Europe. But I expected that since I watched closely on new laws restricting int…

It sounds like you have the Curse of Knowledge.

Take a look at this experiment, it shows that what is self-evident to you may not be as self-evident to others.

http://lesswrong.com/lw/83l/overcoming_the_curse_of_knowledg...

"In 1990, Elizabeth Newton did a fascinating psychology experiment: She paired participants into teams of two: one tapper and one listener. The tappers picked one of 25 well-known songs and would tap out the rhythm on a table. Their partner - the designated listener - was asked to guess the song. How do you think they did?

Not well. Of the 120 songs tapped out on the table, the listeners only guessed 3 of them correctly - a measly 2.5 percent. But get this: before the listeners gave their answer, the tappers were asked to predict how likely their partner was to get it right. Their guess? Tappers thought their partners would get the song 50 percent of the time. You know, only overconfident by a factor of 20. What made the tappers so far off?

They lost perspective because they were "cursed" with the additional knowledge of the song title.Chip and Dan Heath use the story in their book Made to Stick to introduce the term:

    "The problem is that tappers have been given knowledge (the song title) that makes it impossible for them to imagine what it's like to lack that knowledge. When they're tapping, they can't imagine what it's like for the listeners to hear isolated taps rather than a song. This is the Curse of Knowledge. Once we know something, we find it hard to imagine what it was like not to know it. Our knowledge has "cursed" us. And it becomes difficult or us to share our knowledge with others, because we can't readily re-create our listeners' state of mind.""

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

#166
I wonder, where is Snowden now? What has he to say about it? Has he ever spoken anything against the oppression done by the Russian govt?

We should be asking him tough questions, not just joining in praising him to be some sort of hero, who is cozying up with criminals in Kremlin.

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

#167

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The magic of Facebook, Twitter, etc are not the technologies. Sure, as they grow, they need more elegant than off-the-shelf solutions. But hacking together a Twitter clone in a week is the easy part - getting people to use it, building a community, etc, is the hard part.

The hardest part is that once your Twitter clone functions well enough to replace Twitter it will be banned just the same.

Unless I can do it sans central server, web torrent maybe? Any ideas?

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

#168

Russia likes to copy EU strategies and uses them for other purposes. For example, the EU and its members really like to go after US companies for privacy protection. This is usually a good thing for the consumers, but can feel like a targeted attack to the US companies in question. However, when the Russian Federation does - on the surface - almost the same thing, it suddenly has a very different impact...

so you say if Europe does something, it's good. If Russia does the same thing, it's bad, because it's Russia. OK.

Putin likes to make it look that way, yes. And on the surface it does. Beneath the surface, there are lots of important differences.

The EU doesn't block websites. It doesn't control the media. It ensures freedom of speech. It makes it possible even for US companies to do business in the EU, without the fear that their servers are seized whenever some corrupt regime decides to. The EU doesn't go after dissidents... and the list goes on and on...

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

#169

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That's how democracy works. Are you against democracy?

There's a difference between democracy and ochlocracy ("mob rule").

Is the practical mechanism of ochlocracy that it's a democracy with sore winners?

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

#170
> Amid a tense stand-off and attempt at negotiations, Russia’s communications regulator Roskomnadzor has started to enforce a proposed block of LinkedIn in the country, after the social network failed to transfer Russian user data to servers located in the country, violating a law instituted in Russia requiring all online sites to store personal data on national servers.

Not the worst rationale. Keep in mind that countries such as Canada and EU countries also have different privacy laws that US corporations have ran afoul of from time to time.

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