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Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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Post by rdiddly »

tananaev wrote: post #116
pfarnsworth wrote: post #16

Honestly, if LinkedIn disappeared today worldwide, I wouldn't miss it one second. It's really more of a chore than anything else. When you're looking for a job, or looking to recruit, it's helpful, but they haven't made the case of general everyday use, and I doubt they ever will.

The issue is not about LinkedIn. The problem is that there is silly law that requires all personal data of Russian citizens to be stored on the servers located in Russia. It means that Russian government can block access to pretty much any website on the internet that they don't like.

The issue is how LinkedIn didn't comply with a law. Are foreigners allowed to break laws they think are silly, in sovereign nations? No they are not.

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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Post by tananaev »

rdiddly wrote: post #151
tananaev wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue is not about LinkedIn. The problem is that there is silly law that requires all personal data of Russian citizens to be stored on the servers located in Russia. It means that Russian government can block access to pretty much any website on the internet that they don't like.

The issue is how LinkedIn didn't comply with a law. Are foreigners allowed to break laws they think are silly, in sovereign nations? No they are not.

I don't think LinkedIn has any offices is Russia, so they don't have to comply with Russian law.

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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Post by bskdjx »

carl_dr wrote: post #138
nazgul17 wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

*than the median

* for IQ (a normal distribution), the mean and the median (and the mode for that matter) are the same number.

Except that IQ is only approximately normal at small deviations from the mean. Otherwise it's quite skewed

I mean no one has IQ of -5.

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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Post by rdiddly »

LinkedIn didn't just "get blocked" out of the blue. They got blocked after many warnings and plenty of time during which they refused to take basic steps to comply with the laws of a sovereign nation. Just set up some servers in a Russian datacenter and be done with it! But instead they blew it off, or created the impression of blowing it off, by going running to the Russian bureaucrats on the last day -- as if the whole thing were a big surprise!

If you wanted to insult them, show them you didn't take them seriously and didn't make a plan to comply with their laws, I can't think of a better way to do it than going to them on the last day to ask for more time. If I were those bureaucrats I would take especial relish in cutting them off. (And that's aside from the fact that it's a worthless site in the first place.)

Sometimes when you get Tased it's because of crooked cops, but most of the time it's because you're being an ass, disregarding the laws of the people, despite many warnings, and not taking simple steps to comply.

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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Post by rdiddly »

tananaev wrote: post #152
rdiddly wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue is how LinkedIn didn't comply with a law. Are foreigners allowed to break laws they think are silly, in sovereign nations? No they are not.

I don't think LinkedIn has any offices is Russia, so they don't have to comply with Russian law.

They don't HAVE to do anything at all. They can blow off Russian law and be blocked by Russia.

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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Post by technion »

Well I went to see if there was any news on this for an Australian, and all I found when I logged into LinkedIn was this advice regarding "restricting" my account from use:

http://imgur.com/a/VOBQV

I haven't sent out a direct message or "added" anyone in months, and the only recently posted content was this blog:

https://lolware.net/2016/11/17/requesting_bank_login.html

Despite not being able to log in, I've received two separate emails from them. I have a feeling I'll be letting LinkedIn go.

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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Post by mortehu »

bskdjx wrote: post #153
carl_dr wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

* for IQ (a normal distribution), the mean and the median (and the mode for that matter) are the same number.

Except that IQ is only approximately normal at small deviations from the mean. Otherwise it's quite skewed I mean no one has IQ of -5.

IQ is normally distributed by definition, not by some natural property of humans.

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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Post by simongray »

sqeaky wrote: post #121
kovrik wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are right, English is almost useless in Russia. It IS useful if you work in IT and have to read docs, but basic English is enough for that.

Knowing more languages allows you to get perspective and info from more people. English has the most diverse perspectives because it is the de facto language of business around the world. Russian is spoken in... Russia. Knowing only Russian limits you to Russian information sources and perspectives.

While English is indeed very useful, Russian is spoken in quite a bit of countries as a first or second language (mainly in the former USSR).

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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Post by Gustomaximus »

AlwaysRock wrote: post #30

It still blows my mind that people are on linkedin. If you are not a recruiter/hiring manager it's only real purpose (that I can see) is to be a boasting board for achievements and a easy to ignore place to receive recruiting emails. Does anyone get any other value out of it?

I get good value. I work in marketing, client side.

I use it for recruiting to see backgrounds, how peeps career developed etc.

I use it for making business deals. Occasionally I'll reach out to another person where I can see the opportunity to partner on something. How well this is received surprised me at first. I assume it's because I'm not a sales person trying to sell something approach, and it shows people do read their messages.

I use it to keep an eye on what friends and colleges in are doing.

People us it to approach me, often spam but I get much more on email and occasionally get useful introductions.

I use it to look at other companies if I'm thinking of working with them. E.g you can get an idea of if a company is growing/shrinking via their headcount and other things like that.

I've used it to escalate issues I'm having with a business to senior guys that can sort problems. And once used it to flag a database breach I found to a CEO after their IT guys hadn't responded to my emails.....for 6 months...

So it is plenty useful in my user-case and I'm happy for them to show me some ads in return.

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