Global warming: The state of the climate in 2016

Post by flukus » Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 1:56 AM UTC

bottled_poe wrote: post #134

cool_look wrote: post #101

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so that chart is from 2003 - 2009 ... and that is evidence of what exactly? 6 samples of a multi century phenomenon and you are ringing an alarm bell ! the chart smacks more of searching around for a chart that shows a decline to prop up the "ice is in trouble narrative". ice extent ( recovered from 2008/12 ) , ice age ( recovered again from 2012 ), ice thickness ( recovered ), ice refreeze date ( recovered ), polar…

https://sites.google.com/site/arcticseaicegraphs/longterm What is it going to take to convince you? Let's just wait a few more decades to be sure though. It would be a waste spending resources trying to prevent the demise of life on Earth when we didn't need to.

Post by pas » Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 2:00 AM UTC

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china's coal use peaked by 2014: http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/press/releases/20...

According to that article: "China’s coal consumption growth was responsible for more than half of global CO2 emission growth in the past 10 years." China gets over 70% of its electricity from coal. Yes, they are building more solar but it'll take over a decade for there to be significant change. Anyway, the real problem is that even if everyone somehow meets the Paris limits, it's not enough. https://www.beforetheflo…

Post by throwaway7312 » Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 2:16 AM UTC

jackmott wrote: post #72

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well fortunately the Antarctic is gaining mass, so things happen. We are still only 12k years out an ice age and learning as we go. Natural variability is quite boring so it doesn't make headlines as much as it should. the real reality is that the Paris agreement is a horrid piece of do nothing legislation that lets the major developing powers do what they want all the while getting the nod of acceptance from the UN…

No, there is an Antarctic ice sheet that is gaining mass. As a whole, Antarctica is losing ice mass. As is the case for global ice mass balance. Chart of satellite gravity measurements for Antarctica: http://www.skepticalscience.com/images/Antarctica_Ice_Mass.g...

Post by mzw_mzw » Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 2:55 AM UTC

pas wrote: post #190

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I believe "stop pollution" was always the goal and they had to crank the message to alarmist levels to get any traction. As technology progresses and we get better at keeping our local environments clean, I predict their predictions will become increasingly dire. These doomsday warnings are just a sign that we're improving.

Or, you know, that things are getting dire. We shall see who was right though.

Post by intrasight » Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 4:09 AM UTC

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intrasight wrote: post #61

I believe that it is already too late. Here's my proposed solution. Send a robot into space. Pickup an asteroid and bring it to Lagrangian L1. Have it begin weaving a solar curtain.

doesn't fix the ocean acidification