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Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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Post by sqeaky »

kovrik wrote: post #100
magic_quotes wrote: post #91

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> Heck, the majority of Russians doesn't even bother to learn elementary English! I'm not necessary disagreeing, but why should they? I mean, it is obviously useful, but it doesn't directly translate to quality of life improvement.

You are right, English is almost useless in Russia. It IS useful if you work in IT and have to read docs, but basic English is enough for that.

Knowing more languages allows you to get perspective and info from more people. English has the most diverse perspectives because it is the de facto language of business around the world. Russian is spoken in... Russia. Knowing only Russian limits you to Russian information sources and perspectives.

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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Post by devoply »

raquo wrote: post #106
devoply wrote: post #37

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Doesn't seem like it: https://www.google.ca/search?q=russia+gdp

Are you hoping people won't look past the misleading google chart that ends in 2013? Russia's GDP has been reliably falling since then. http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/gdp-per-capita-ppp

Are you hoping I won't type /china/ in the URL? The statement "average gdp of Russians dropping below that of China" is still not true. Though I am not an expert on the subject, nor do I have a interest in Russia.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/china/gdp-per-capita-ppp

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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Post by Sakes »

SanFranManDan wrote: post #85
hal9000xp wrote: post #45

As a Russian citizen, I used LinkedIn heavily to find jobs in Europe (along with stackoverflow.com/jobs). I keep a lot of contacts there (e.g. former colleagues and European recruiters, some of them are very helpful). I found it's alarming that LinkedIn is blocked in Russia. Blocking LinkedIn significantly reduces chances to find a job in Europe. But I expected that since I watched closely on new laws restricting int…

> That's why I left Russia and I hope forever! > dirty rotten mouths of nasty Kremlin bastards > Heck, the majority of Russians doesn't even bother to learn elementary English! > Stupid people buy everything Kremlin tells them, including version about protecting Russian citizens from US NSA. > thanks to backward masses > P.S. I hope to get rid of toxic Russian citizenship in the future. I think the only thing toxic h…

> I think the only thing toxic here is how you write and view other humans and your fellow countrymen as inferior beings.

Eh, might be toxic. Might be a natural human response to seeing the majority of his countrymen accept propaganda without question. You don't know this guy. For me his comment read more like a frustrated individual than someone that thinks he is superior.

I imagine similar trends can be found in many countries, including the US. The desire to belong is strong, and sometimes it's in our best interest to think less and cheer more.

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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Post by Dolores12 »

hal9000xp wrote: post #92
SanFranManDan wrote: post #85

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> That's why I left Russia and I hope forever! > dirty rotten mouths of nasty Kremlin bastards > Heck, the majority of Russians doesn't even bother to learn elementary English! > Stupid people buy everything Kremlin tells them, including version about protecting Russian citizens from US NSA. > thanks to backward masses > P.S. I hope to get rid of toxic Russian citizenship in the future. I think the only thing toxic h…

This majority is totally fine to imprison unwanted minorities. This majority is totally fine to restrict my freedoms. This majority thinks they are right because they are majority . So in short, the majority asks me to sacrifice myself for their sake because I'm in minority and they are in majority. If so, f##k them! P.S. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_Shrugged

That's how democracy works. Are you against democracy?

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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Post by raquo »

devoply wrote: post #122
raquo wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you hoping people won't look past the misleading google chart that ends in 2013? Russia's GDP has been reliably falling since then. http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/gdp-per-capita-ppp

Are you hoping I won't type /china/ in the URL? The statement "average gdp of Russians dropping below that of China" is still not true. Though I am not an expert on the subject, nor do I have a interest in Russia. http://www.tradingeconomics.com/china/gdp-per-capita-ppp

I thought you were contesting the bigger argument that Russia's economy is stagnating, since the link you provided did not contradict anything else (there was no reference to China).

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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Post by devoply »

raquo wrote: post #101
devoply wrote: post #38

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Same as National Security Letter. You give the government what it wants, or else. At the end of the day the difference is soft power vs. hard power. The thugs dressing in nice suits and having their agents mess your business up through audits or lawsuits, or thugs sending their secret police to mess you up. The end result is they get what they want no matter what.

Uh... You can't send a national security letter to a foreign company that has no presence in the US. Well, you can probably send it, but since the foreign company is not bound by US laws, they can ignore it and even publish it (this is my understanding, IANAL). The whole point of this Russian law is to remove this limitation.

The State department has gone after companies that had no US presence, they did so on the basis of Americans using the website which they feel gives them jurisdiction. It's very similar to that.

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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Post by DominikR »

hal9000xp wrote: post #45

As a Russian citizen, I used LinkedIn heavily to find jobs in Europe (along with stackoverflow.com/jobs). I keep a lot of contacts there (e.g. former colleagues and European recruiters, some of them are very helpful). I found it's alarming that LinkedIn is blocked in Russia. Blocking LinkedIn significantly reduces chances to find a job in Europe. But I expected that since I watched closely on new laws restricting int…

Why should Russia allow a US company to mine private data about its citizens on a large scale when it is known that the US government basically can force any US company to hand over any data it desires.

That's why they have passed a law whereby private data from social networks about its citizens has to be stored within Russia and must not be transmitted to any other country.

Linkedin knew that but they ignored it, probably because it didn't make economic sense for them

You can argue if it is acceptable or not for a government to step in and prevent foreign governments from acquiring such data about its population, but calling people stupid like you did frankly makes _you_ look stupid.

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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Post by DrJokepu »

Dolores12 wrote: post #124
hal9000xp wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This majority is totally fine to imprison unwanted minorities. This majority is totally fine to restrict my freedoms. This majority thinks they are right because they are majority . So in short, the majority asks me to sacrifice myself for their sake because I'm in minority and they are in majority. If so, f##k them! P.S. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_Shrugged

That's how democracy works. Are you against democracy?

There's a difference between democracy and ochlocracy ("mob rule").

Re: LinkedIn is now officially blocked in Russia

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Post by PerfectDlite »

theamk wrote: post #71
andreiw wrote: post #65

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The great thing about guys like you is your astounding hypocrisy, the chutzpah with which you claim authority to represent Russians, and disdain for the "unwashed masses". If literally any other government introduced similar legislation to protect citizen data, it would be considered progressive and relevant to the times we live in. In Russia? "Nasty kremlin bastards". The sheer gall to consider that your own interpr…

The problem is, that legislation does not actually protect citizen data. All code is still controlled by LinkedIn, and Russian goverment still have no idea what it does. If FBI (or CIA or any other agency) comes to LinkedIn with an order, then does it matter if the technician serving the request pulls the data from Russian, European or US database? The data will be delivered anyway. Moreover, the law does not actuall…

> I see no other reason for the law.

Petty attempt to force big companies to pay for Russian hosting.

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