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Re: “I have toyota corola”

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Post by corecoder » Mon, Nov 14, 2016, 2:34 PM UTC

Xylakant wrote: post #66

city41 wrote: post #44

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Sounds similar to the problems test.com endures. http://contactx.test.com/contactX/contact-spam.cfm

It's a surprisingly hard task to educate developers and testers to use the designated test domains (example.com and example.org) in automated or manual tests.

A friend and ex co-worker of mine, at our first job, had to write some code to send emails. Not knowing any better, he ran his manual tests using a clearly non existent email address, just a combination of letters. Or, so he thought: he soon received an email from said combination of letters, begging him to please stop spamming.

Re: “I have toyota corola”

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Post by ergot » Mon, Nov 14, 2016, 2:35 PM UTC

I usually break E-mail addresses into the following categories:

Monolithic. That one email address you put on business cards, hand out at conferences, post in public forums. Basically a catch-all that quickly becomes a firehose for spam and bacn[1] but every now and then you get an actual reachout as described in this post. They are infact gems when you get them, and always remind me how precious E-mail, as a loose social network, is.

Registrations. For creating throwaway accounts on various online social outlets. Got an IMGUR.com meme you must send to a friend over IM? No problem, your trusty registrations e-mail account, or account(s) have you covered.

Commerce. Super secure email address which is on a trusted provider, and is rarely, if ever, given out publicly. You change your password frequently on this, and make sure not to contaminate it with other identities. Typically tied to several accounts where money moves in them. Accounts with credit cards, PayPal, etc.

Others? I am interested to hear other people's single-duty uses for email? I know I could write about other categories, but those three cover a large portion of what I use E-mail for.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacn

Re: “I have toyota corola”

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Post by problems » Mon, Nov 14, 2016, 2:35 PM UTC

pjc50 wrote: post #86

pc86 wrote: post #49

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If it's possible for me to wake up a developer with only a phone call, I think your support system is broken.

Developers have phone numbers like anyone else. And when people aren't paying for support, because this is open source, there isn't exactly going to be a 24/7 support helpline.

Why do people have a publicly listed personal phone number though?

Re: “I have toyota corola”

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Post by ominous » Mon, Nov 14, 2016, 2:38 PM UTC

109281091 wrote: post #71

ominous wrote: post #22

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$ google "define karma" karma /ˈkɑːmə,ˈkəːmə/ noun noun: karma (in Hinduism and Buddhism) the sum of a person's actions in this and previous states of existence, viewed as deciding their fate in future informal good or bad luck, viewed as resulting from one's actions. Not all karma is good. The important part is the "resulting from one's actions"

These definitions aren't a computer program. They require some degree of cooperation from the reader.

Yes, language, as well as culture and money, exist because people cooperate on some level.

Re: “I have toyota corola”

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Post by kalleboo » Mon, Nov 14, 2016, 2:42 PM UTC

ergot wrote: post #92

I usually break E-mail addresses into the following categories: Monolithic. That one email address you put on business cards, hand out at conferences, post in public forums. Basically a catch-all that quickly becomes a firehose for spam and bacn[1] but every now and then you get an actual reachout as described in this post. They are infact gems when you get them, and always remind me how precious E-mail, as a loose s…

I use a catch-all domain, and every site/business gets its own @example.com. For business cards and friends I use something like myname@ or contact@

When one businesses address starts getting spam I blackhole it.

Similar to the + suffix trick but works on any site.

Re: “I have toyota corola”

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Post by Drdrdrq » Mon, Nov 14, 2016, 2:44 PM UTC

problems wrote: post #93

pjc50 wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Developers have phone numbers like anyone else. And when people aren't paying for support, because this is open source, there isn't exactly going to be a 24/7 support helpline.

Why do people have a publicly listed personal phone number though?

Because they want to help their users as much as possible?

Re: “I have toyota corola”

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Post by ClassyJacket » Mon, Nov 14, 2016, 2:45 PM UTC

noobermin wrote: post #17

ommunist wrote: post #13

I believe this is karma of every stable open source product, which gained enough popularity.

That would be the opposite of karma, wouldn't it? Unless OSS is unrewarded evil in your eyes

I've always understood karma to be good or bad. It's not always evil. You can have good karma or bad karma, it's just always what you deserve.

Re: “I have toyota corola”

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Post by TallGuyShort » Mon, Nov 14, 2016, 2:45 PM UTC

problems wrote: post #93

pjc50 wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Developers have phone numbers like anyone else. And when people aren't paying for support, because this is open source, there isn't exactly going to be a 24/7 support helpline.

Why do people have a publicly listed personal phone number though?

I've gotten texts and calls in the middle of the night from people wanting help on open source stuff I've worked on, and I have no publicly listed personal phone number. No idea how they all get it, although one told me that he got my business card at a conference. I imagine that's happened once or twice and it's been passed around.

I do of course respond by saying it's inappropriate to call me directly in the middle of the night, and they should contact my employer for support or email the appropriate public mailing list and I'd be happy to respond there. Still happens a few times a year, though. Not surprised SQLite folks get overwhelmed, even if they didn't go out of there way to offer. I've worked on lesser-known projects and have never even been the key developer.

Re: “I have toyota corola”

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Post by 0x0 » Mon, Nov 14, 2016, 2:46 PM UTC

0xcde4c3db wrote: post #77

IshKebab wrote: post #69

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Surely example.com has these problems too, although to be fair they don't really need to receive any email.

example.com has an empty MX record, so you can't really send email to it anyway.

I believe SMTP attempts delivery to the A record if there is no MX record.

Re: “I have toyota corola”

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Post by ghaff » Mon, Nov 14, 2016, 2:46 PM UTC

problems wrote: post #93

pjc50 wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Developers have phone numbers like anyone else. And when people aren't paying for support, because this is open source, there isn't exactly going to be a 24/7 support helpline.

Why do people have a publicly listed personal phone number though?

When I was writing some shareware and other PC software, there were basically two ways to reach me: write me a snail mail letter or call me. So it was pretty normal to publish your personal phone number (and address). I wouldn't do it today, but those were pretty much the only ways to contact people.